Revamp: Tropius

[ImmunityBow]

What CAN be revamped:
- Movesets (TMs and levelsets) - For TMs, please post the existing list even if you're making no changes, it makes my job much easier.
- Abilities
- Egg Moves (POST WITH FATHERS, PLEASE)

What CANNOT be revamped:
- Base stats

We're doing Tropius in this topic.

Getting these out here because they're needed for the demo.

[Noog]

Magical Leaf (from Venap line) could be added onto Tropius's Egg Moves, as it's a level-up move in RSE.

Also, I've edited and added a few things to Tropius's level-up moves:

-- Leer
-- Gust
7 - Growth
11 - Razor Leaf
17 - Stomp
21 - Whirlwind
27 - Ancientpower
31 - Body Slam
37 - Leaf Blade/Air Cutter*
41 - Synthesis
47 - Magic Dust
51 - Sunny Day
57 - Tempest
61 - Grasswhistle
67 - Floral Storm

Not sure about Leaf Blade, as it's Sceptile's signature move. Still, it fits Tropius. Air Cutter is an alternative in that slot. I can't see Tropius camouflaging anywhere but the forest, and even then it's a stretch. Sky Attack also doesn't fit very well, seeing as Tropius's appearance makes it seem like it can't go very fast.

[ImmunityBow]

I think Air Cutter and Sky Attack fit Tropius better than Tempest and (as an alternative) Aerial Ace. Sky Attack is more about gathering power than about gathering speed. And I'm sure it can drop from the sky as fast as anything else. Tempest, however, I don't think fits. Tropius' job isn't to whip up a storm but rather to be an ecosystem all by itself.

Cherry Bomb could be a nice addition, though.

[Blade Flight]

Cherry Bomb could be a nice addition, though.

This is exactly what I thought before even reading it. It has fruit hanging from its neck; even if they're not cherries, it would make sense to have such a move.

[ImmunityBow]

Here's a tentative TM List:

05 Roar
06 Toxic
09 Bullet Seed
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
15 Hyper Beam
17 Protect
19 Giga Drain
20 Safeguard
21 Frustration
22 Solar Beam
26 Earthquake
27 Return
32 Double Team
40 Aerial Ace
42 Facade
43 Secret Power
44 Rest
45 Attract
47 Steel Wing
48 Skill Swap
52 False Swipe
53 Focus Sight
55 Endure
56 Windwhistle
62 Cherry Bomb
64 Floral Storm
67 Silver Wind
69 Calm Wind
72 Initiative
75 Sleep Talk
76 Tempest
78 Substitute
79 Rocket Punch
80 Orion’s Sword

[NyteFyre]

Hmm.......Why Silver Wind? Doesn't it consist of bug scales/poweder? Other than that, I don't see any problems with the TM list. No HMs?

[ImmunityBow]

HMs have a separate list.

Fruit + Flying = bugs + wind = Silver Wind?

[NyteFyre]

eh....seems like a real stretch to me. If no one else objects, then It can stay. It just seemed strange to me. Then again, there are many strange nuances of pokemon being able to learn moves that make no physical sense for them to have.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

I remember this disscussion before... was it on the old boards?

[ImmunityBow]

Tropius' movepool is terrible as it is :X

[Triumph]

Let's buffify him then.

I'll throw these out there: Leaf Blade, Sludge Bomb, Arial Ace, Giga Drain (can already be learned by tm, but still), Petal Dance, Double-Edge, Slash, Take Down, ExtremeSpeed, Headbutt, Skull Bash, Swords Dance, Signal Beam.

[ImmunityBow]

Hmm most of those he can either already learn in some way or don't fit in some way:

Leaf Blade - Seems redundant when Cherry Bomb fits so much better.
Sludge Bomb - Seems like the antithesis of Tropius
Aerial Ace - Learned by TM
Giga Drain - Learned by TM
Petal Dance - This is fine but he already learns Floral Storm by TM or otherwise which is generally better.
Double-Edge - Maybe
Slash - Doesn't fit, won't really help him
Take Down - See above
Extremespeed - Could you see Tropius using this?
Headbutt - Sure
Skull Bash - Would it help him?
Swords Dance - Seems strange
Signal Beam - We've been plastering Signal Beam everywhere, I don't see Tropius using this either.

I was thinking more supportive moves like Aromatherapy and Light Screen.

[ImmunityBow]

Argh, I'm so sorry, I just checked and Tropius already has basically everything done. In interest of time let's just leave it be so if someone could do the writeup for this one that'd be great:

http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/showthread.php?331-Tropius

[Noog]

Tropius
Fruit Pokemon
Evolution: Final Stage
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 220.5 lbs.
Ability: Chlorophyll
HP: 99
Attack: 68
Defense: 83
Special Attack: 72
Special Defense: 87
Speed: 51
Total: 460

TROPIUS' fruit directly reflects the climate of the year. It can be engorged by an abundance of rain, or deliciously sweetened by a profusion of sunlight.

Moves:
Leer --
Gust --
Growth 07
Razor Leaf 11
Stomp 17
Sweet Scent 21
Whirlwind 27
Ancientpower 31
Air Cutter 37
Body Slam 41
Synthesis 47
Magic Dust 51
Sunny Day 57
Tempest 61
Camouflage 67
Floral Storm 71
Sky Attack 77

TMs:
05 Roar
06 Toxic
09 Bullet Seed
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
15 Hyper Beam
17 Protect
19 Giga Drain
20 Safeguard
21 Frustration
22 Solar Beam
26 Earthquake
27 Return
32 Double Team
40 Aerial Ace
42 Facade
43 Secret Power
44 Rest
45 Attract
47 Steel Wing
48 Skill Swap
52 False Swipe
53 Focus Sight
55 Endure
56 Windwhistle
62 Cherry Bomb
64 Floral Storm
67 Silver Wind
69 Calm Wind
72 Initiative
75 Sleep Talk
76 Tempest
78 Substitute
79 Rocket Punch
80 Orion’s Sword

Egg Moves:
Headbutt
Leech Seed
Nature Power
Signal Beam
Follow Me

[ImmunityBow]

For future references, this is missing a bunch of things:


#020/#027 You need the Caldera/Kirant dex number followed by the National dex number

Sandshrew
Mouse Pokemon
Evolution: Evolves into Sandslash at level 22
Height: 0.6m Have these in metric if possible.
Weight: 12kg
Ability: Sand Veil
Ability: Earthen Armor
Egg Group: Ground Egg Group is super helpful.

Sandshrew: To avoid predators, SANDSHREW curls itself up to look like a small boulder. When intimidated, it burrows deep into the ground to escape its attacker. Pokemon's name: Pokedex Entry, and this should be before BST.

Base Stats:
HP: 50
Atk: 75
Def: 85
SAtk: 20
SDef: 30
Spd: 40
BST: 300

Scratch ---
Defense Curl 6
Poison Sting 11
Sand Attack 17
Rollout 21
Magnitude 23
Swift 30
Metal Claw 34
Slash 37
Rapid Spin 45
Terra Strike 53
Spike Wall 56

Thanks for your help, though