santa trainer sprite

[Quinn]

Sorry for posting in an older thread, but I looked at this and remembered something.
SANTA CLAUSE
(dont laugh too hard, this is the first time I've ever done something like this)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Sprites/HikerClaus.png
As obvious as this should be, I used a hiker as the idea. Now even if he isn't a gift giver, or a move tutor (better idea) I am kinda hoping he could be just an easter egg or something.
Is there anything I can change on him to make him look "good"?

[ImmunityBow]

Not bad, actually, for a start! The gray beard makes him look a little bit "bad" if you know what I mean, I'd lighten it up. I'd also add fur lining to more parts of the sprite (the hat's rim, the sleeves) and edit some parts that are pretty clearly taken from the hiker.

[Quinn]

now again, since this is my first...let me get this straight...lighten the beard a bit and add a more fuzzy look? Also, can u give me any tips on gettin rid of more hiker look?
(Yet again sorry for postin in an old thread, I just really like the idea....:D)
To get off about him for a second...u think we could have him like a freaky move tutor, or just have him be an easter egg? (If, hopefully, he makes it?)

[ImmunityBow]

For removing hiker-ness, first of all you need to recolour the shades of red so they match, and edit the pants so they look less like dyed-red-canvas pants and more velvet-Santa-style. The boots also look a bit out of place so I'd recommend editing them too.

[Quinn]

alright, to make sure with the red, your talking about the pants right? And do u personally have any ideas with the boots? I'm guessing black boots?

[Mediocrity_Incarnate]

yeah go with black boots

[XTS]

Hiker Nicholas would like to battle? Yeahsure, Wynaut. Maybe make the eyes just a bit bigger, though? They're like....squinty now. Just looks weird.

[Quinn]

I havent done eyes yet. I'm just pretty busy for a night or 2 (with the desk ready to be finally reasembled) but I'll try to squeeze him in.
"Hiker Clause" Round 2 (I'm gonna make this sound like my shinies...lol :) )
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Sprites/HikerClausImage.png

[Cyndadile]

Looks very good, but I would make the sleeves red, and add some of the fluff around his waist to the bottom of the hat.

I say "I would", but in reality, its not like I coud do any good at spriting...

[Quinn]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Sprites/HikerClausImage-1.png this is the eye and more shading change. It took 30 minutes to decide on the eyes...only to add 2 more white pixels :)

[Merlin]

I was thinking of like the red sleeves with some white cotton around the wrists...
also I suggest removing the straps over his chest holding his shirt there since it's most times shown as a single piece shirt/coat. maybe add some white cotton down the center of the chest to the cotton looking belt.
currently it looks good even as is...

[Quinn]

I think the straps are fine (might be just me), but I did change the sleeves.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Sprites/HikerClausImage-2.png

[Quinn]

k...I started on these...yet again this is the first time I have ever done an "overworld" sprite....and yet again...I based it off the hikers.
It isn't compete (as you can see), but I want ya'll to see it.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/HikerClauseoverworld.png
Now as you can see, I was thinkin he could just look around rather than run. If you think he should run...I've still got the originals and it is possible.
I also though that we could throw a possible stanlter (HG SS) overworld by his side, or I could try to make a carabrisk. Another I was thinking, is he could chase around his "deer", like picko and Mr. Brinney in ruby/sapphire.

[NyteFyre]

i always thought that Santa wore glasses...idk why, but the sprite seems a bit off in the face region, and i think some small wire-frame reading glasses would help...but that's just me...

[Quinn]

If you think he should run...I've still got the originals and it is possible.
I also though that we could throw a possible stanlter (HG SS) overworld by his side, or I could try to make a carabrisk. Another I was thinking, is he could chase around his "deer", like picko and Mr. Brinney in ruby/sapphire.
Alright, I got him done...without the running ones. I still dont know if anyone wants this. That being said, I found the HG SS stantler.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Sprites/Stanter.pnghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/HikerClauseoverworld-1.png

[Merlin]

they all look pretty good to me...
and Nytefyre: he doesn't always need glasses that's just the traditional way to draw him...
my mom drew a version of santa one time (like early 90s i think) and he wears red green and white...
the colors we use for santa today are from Coca-Cola... (see there logo--tis red/white...)
but really he looks good regardless of the glasses...

[Quinn]

I've chosen to do the walking sprites too. Though I have been having some issues with the one of him walking right. Any ideas and/or help?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/EntireOverworldHikerClause.png

[NyteFyre]

well, maybe replace those Hiker walking left sprites with santa ones would help...Also, the arm looks kind of like a noodle on the walking right one...maybe make it a bit more angled, and straightened, and move the bag up a pixel or 2 to compensate? Also, i don't see any fluff on santas right arm...

[Quinn]

I'm not the happiest with the hand either, but if I add another pixel to it, it actually cuts it into 2. I could see with the bag though. What do u mean wit the arm. The other hikers I'll do tonight.

[NyteFyre]

well, his arm look like a noodle bent back, but not so that it breaks...it's too rounded, and looks kinda funky. make it more of a straight line, and that should help...

[Quinn]

alright, I'll try that. Hopefully by tommorow I can have this completed and an animation done.

[NyteFyre]

can't wait to see how it turns out! maybe i could change up the stantler overworld to look more like carbirisk...idk...

Edit: Got a Caribrisk done. What do you think? http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/124/e/9/Caribrisk_overworld_2_by_DrakeWolf.gif

[ImmunityBow]

The fact that it's smaller than its pre-evo Stantler is a little strange, and it needs visible outlines so it can be seen. The colours are good though.

[NyteFyre]

hmm....-goes to work on it more-

i'm not sure why it's smaller than stantler, i guess that can be looked over, seeing as it's only an overworld. i am unable to make it bigger on my own...

This any better?
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/124/9/3/Caribrisk_overworld_3_by_DrakeWolf.gif

[Quinn]

looks fine to me, though the antlers could be a couple hairs bigger, and it needs eyes. I dont know why, but it is sometimes hard to view something without its eyes, they give it life.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/EntireOverworldHikerClause-1.png
and my animation. This took FOREVER TO MAKE!!!! OHHH MY GOD TYPE OF THING! Remember though, that this JUST AN animated gif....this isn't exactly how it will transition. Ya'll dont use animated gif for this, right? I dont think so.
Example:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Animation-Awesomeness.gif
why is there a freaky wood background u ask? If I made it transparent, the cotton would blend with the forum, so I used it for contrast. Also, for most houses in the game, (to what I've seen) they have wood floors.

[NyteFyre]

techincally, there are eyes, but seeing as Caribrisk has very light eyes, it makes them hard to see on the sprite...

[Quinn]

Breakin some rules with colors isn't always bad. I really think they could go darker...I can't even see eyes.

[NyteFyre]

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/127/e/7/Caribrisk_overworld_4_by_DrakeWolf.gif
this any better? i followed you guy's suggestions, and got this.

[Quinn]

to me, that looks ALOT better though I think a pupil might look good. Idk though. Also, it kinda looks like his feet are floating....though that maybe just since the forum background is white too.

[NyteFyre]

for me, the forum background is a sky blue, so i can see it better. Also, the Stantler sprite i molded into the Caribrisk sprite didn't have pupils, if you look closely.

[Quinn]

Yah, I just noticed that. Well I cant really see any problems...so if anybody else doesn't either, could u make a sheet?

[NyteFyre]

sure, once i have the time.

Edit: found time.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/128/3/8/Caribrisk_Sheet_1_by_DrakeWolf.gif

[Quinn]

alright. I'm gonna take these and make a little animation. Though animations aren't exact to how things transition, it gives a good taste.

[Quinn]

When I opened your sprite sheet. I noticed some slight issues...that being said here is the animation with his originals. Except I think I added some lines...and this one might be a bit faster than the one below since I made it move 8 pixels each time rather than six.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CarabriskAnimation.gif
Here is my edits to the Carabrisk sprite sheet. I made it a bit more brighter, cyanish, and a bit less "saturated"
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CarabriskSpriteSheet.png
Here is my animation. This one I had it move 6 pixels over each time...so thats why its slower.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/My-Carabrisk-Animation.gif
also as you can tell with the backgrounds...I was messing with them to see a possible color scheme for his house. At first I liked the 1st, though I later thought it could be more "colorised"...and thats why there is a background change in the 2 (I ramble lolz)

[NyteFyre]

oh yeah, i forgot to change the tail, my bad...also, i tried to make it more Cyanish, but couldn't quite get it.

[Quinn]

thats fine. I was actually wondering, if even you could download mine and see if you can make the tail better? I think we all forgot about that :D .

[NyteFyre]

sure, i could try, but i can't guarantee success...later...

[Quinn]

I'm guessing you either haven't had the time yet, or you couldn't find anything. I just dont want this to get buried in the forums. I think we have everything we need...the sprite, the overworld, the overworld for a carabrisk. All "I" can think of is giving him his party.

[ImmunityBow]

I'm still not entirely keen on the sprite's face. He looks evil. The overworlds are quite nice though.

[Blade Flight]

I'm still not entirely keen on the sprite's face. He looks evil.
We can call him Santa Barbara! *shot*

Cookie if you know which old issue of Nintendo Power I got that out of. >__>

[Quinn]

alright, I'll work with his face.
Also...have fun reading this :D
Possible “Hiker Clause” party team
Stanter
Intimidate
Lv ???
Hypnosis
Stomp
Confuse Ray
Powder Snow?

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Blizzard
Cold Wind
Hail
Confuse Ray

Stantler
Intimidate
Lv ???
Take Down
Hypnosis
Psychic
Powder Snow

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Cold Wind
Ice Beam
Icicle Whip
Double Team

From here on out, pick your 2 favs.

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv. ???
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Hail
Hypnosis

Wolfrost
Intimidate
Lv ???
Icicle Whip
Howl
Crush Claw
Avalanche

Polarice
Thick Fat
Lv. ???
Crush Claw
Slack Off
Roar
Avalanche/ Hyper Beam

Sirene
Light Absorb
Lv ???
Light Wave
Hydro Pump
Perish Song
Riptide/ Hyper Beam

Frostorm
Cold Snap
Lv. ???
Weather Ball
Tempest
Icy Wind
Cold Wind

[NyteFyre]

Wolfrost, and Frostorm

[Quinn]

I'm slow...I dont know....sad day.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/HikerClausImage-2.png
this better?
I worked with his eye brows a bit, unusually they WERE actually curved down in the angry look.

[ImmunityBow]

One more thing that has been bothering me: The hat looks like it's falling of his head. Could that be fixed?

[Merlin]

my two faves r Wolfrost and Polarice cause i think they would be good to fight against and for the Santa trainer good to fight with...
considering where he lives he should be using Wolfrost and Polarice most times and probably have more Polarice but legends tend to keep things from being messed with too much...

[Quinn]

I'll work on it. That being said, though it is the weekend...I've got homework coming out of my ears. You would think that the last weeks of school are kicking back, but not for my classes...

[Quinn]

sorry for double postin, the edit time is done.
I just remembered something, his house.
(as some background), when I downloaded poccil's essentials, I looked through all the folders. The folder that I'll be talking about is the buildings one. When I saw it, all it was was just a billion houses and towers (towers cut into 2 or so). So if they are just images, we can edit them. I was wondering, how we could differ his house from the others. Possilbly candy canes? maybe a green mat? idk. That being said, I deleted it all when it wouldn't run (for having a too small monitor) Sow could someone (I would think either zero or I B would have this) could email, pm, or just post the general outer and inside house. The inside, I wanna make red and green and stuff (see carabrisk animations).

[ImmunityBow]

Go ahead. You might want to take a look at the repository if you have access though. There's Fangking's set of interior tilesets, which is even more extensive.

[Quinn]

(thank god) I couldn't find any

[Quinn]

I couldn't find them? I looked through all the maps, and miscellaneous, though couldn't find them. could someone email or pm me them?

[Quinn]

sorry for double posting. I'm making the house right now...and it is alot tougher than I thought. I think it will be good though. I'm having fun with it. I'm gonna possibly throw a load of Caribou and Reindeer though :D Possibly some flashing lights at night. I'm gonna have my fun. (IB, when we all agree on something, can you help me create it into some tiles?)

[Quinn]

that house is comming along pretty decent. I ripped the all 3 different house thingys. I took the normal house, and resized it (still trying to fix the distort), the big house factory one, and the chimney from the other. I'm wanting to make it big :D Also, I dont think this could happen, though I was imagining (B.S thinking) that it could be semi different. During the day, the lights are off and a sleigh on the roof, during the late dusk and early night, the lights are flashing the sleigh on top and a carabrisk by it, and during most of the night, a sleigh, the carabrisks running around are gone, and "hiker clause" is gone.
This was just me imagining though That would be fun though. I do think though that if I do put a sleigh and junk on the roof, during the night, it, all the carabrisks and stanters running around and him himself should be gone.

[HavocWraith]

You showed me the house and it llooked good. keep at it

[Quinn]

I might be able to do more of the house tonight! I dont know for sure though.

[Quinn]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Hiker.jpg so far.

[Quinn]

Latest Hiker Clause:
(I'm gonna post his house in a different post)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/HikerClaus5-22-10.png

[NyteFyre]

I would probably help if you didn't keep double posting...I would ask Zero if i could get some Editing powers so i wouldn't have to double post like that if i were you. just saying is all.

[ImmunityBow]

Double posting is fine if you have something relevant to add and it's past the editing window. I really don't see why there's so much stigma behind it. Topaz doesn't have a big enough community to enforce all the rules bigger forums have (necroposting, double posting, etc.) If you don't want him to double post, then simply post something relevant of your own.

[Quinn]

k, here is what I've got of a house.
During the day:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Hiker-Clause-House-Daytime.gif
and this one I LOVE, at night
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Hiker-Clause-House-Nighttime.gif
Is there anyone good at making tiles? I need one of a fireplace for the inside

So here is what we got all together now. We have a sprite
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/HikerClaus5-22-10.png
We have an overworld
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/EntireOverworldHikerClause-1.png
we have a stantler and a carabrisk overworld (which I will use ALOT)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Sprites/Stanter.png http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CarabriskSpriteSheet.png
we have an outside of the house (look above)
we have his team (generally, we need to decide that)
and we dont have NPC lines (how Ironic)
...and we have a tree. ;) If its good I'll use it, cant tell anyone "how" it will be used though
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Tree.png

[ImmunityBow]

I like what you've done with the roof there. Did you sprite that carriage yourself?

As for the rest of the house, the animations are fine, it's a nice idea to have it light up at night. The columns need shading though. Not just on the white.

The santa sprite looks a little sad, don't you think? Why don't you try closing his eyes and making him laugh?

As for the overworlds, they're great. The hat needs to have its shading reflect its shape more though, as does the bag. Try having it rounded instead of cutting across diagonally.

[Quinn]

yes I did. :) I'll work with the colums and the overworlds. (I'll do this before the odd couple though, since I'm more amped bout him)
"...like my tree...? ;)" That could be taken in 2 ways,though. Pick your poison.

[NyteFyre]

-eye roll-

Those look awesome, Quinn, you may very well have a future in spriting!
The tree is fine, but what's it for? a Christmas tree at night?

[Quinn]

nope, but that just gave me another idea. THANX! (that idea is so much better than the other that I'm going to do as well...the one I can't talk bout yet) I dont have a future in spriting though... if you wanna know what I'm talkin bout, look at the "possible scorchion" thread.

[Quinn]

I'm just wondering, what should the size of the inside be? I was working with the tiles, and when it was 300 by 240 or so, I couldn't get too much in there, since all the tiles were big. I was thinking something like 500 or 600 by mid 400s. Or should I go bigger?

[ImmunityBow]

It doesn't really matter. In video-game physics a huge house can have a really small outside.

[Quinn]

yah, I just noticed,with the overworlds compared to the inside tiles, they are HUGE.

[NyteFyre]

It's true...i've seen it many a time.

[Quinn]

would you have any ideas on how to fix this issue?

[Quinn]

alright. According to IB, when overworld sprites are put into RPG, they double in size. Since these are only previews, I had to double their size temporary. So, here is a revamp of the outside.
(Didn't animate)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Topaz%20Shinymon/HikerClauseHouse5-24-10.png
and 1st floor of his house.
(Not the easiest thing, but it is FUN!
(didn't make Clause run around like a crackhead.)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Pokemon%20Topaz%20Shinymon/Hiker-Clause-Inside-House.gif

[ImmunityBow]

Looking good. (Actually, though, the overworlds need to be doubled in size before putting them on the map, the game doesn't do it for you).

There's one thing that's bothering me though, that's the fire. There's an orange pixel at the bottom that really looks out of place.

[Quinn]

I see whatcha mean. I also edited a bit, not only would there be downstairs, but there is an attic like thing (his room). I did put that snowy tree in there. That isn't what my surprise thing is though. I'll just say it since it isn't that cool anyway. In places like mossdeep and sootpolis, there are peoples houses that have trees that block doors and stuff, and that is what the tree would do. Block a couple areas in the basement.
Here are screenshots of what is so far.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/MainRoom.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Attic.jpg

[Quinn]

I'm making a downstairs right now, but I was wondering, would anyone by chance have the tile of a chair's back view? I've got the front and both sides, but I can't find a back. (Maybe I might just create one.) The downstairs isn't too cool though, but its gonna be populated with about 6-10 younger boys and girls.
Possible NPC lines for them all: General (some will say the exact same thing)
1. Hi
2. Sorry, I'm busy right now (Wii player)
3. Welcome. Are you hungry?
4. Welcome to *Saint Nick's* (Hiker Clause, or whatever we decide to finally call him. Not santa clause though. Seems to "odd". I think Saint Nick works) house. Enjoy your stay.
5. Hello
6. What do you want?
(as you can tell, they aren't much talkers)

[Quinn]

The downstairs is close enough to say "I'm mainly done". I just need the younger boy's and girl's overworlds.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Downstairs.jpg

[Quinn]

alright, I got alot done today. Here are alot of previews. (They are big, so I wont post them)
First the main floor
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Main-Room.gif
go upstairs into the attic
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Attic-1.png
Instead of going upstairs, go downstairs....
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/BF-1.gif (this room (during day) and the next room (During night) are the populated rooms)
Where does the food come from on the tables you ask? What is behind the tree? Go to the room right by and see...
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/BF1SideRoom.png (where the youngers sleep at night.)
the tree is still there though...oh well...sucks for you (It's a lead to a factory, though I'm NOT GONNA MAKE THAT!!!)
Go downstairs and see....
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Basement.gif
DANCING DEER!!!! Lol. They aren't supposed to do that. They are supposed to be like the HG SS ones. Isnt that kinda funny though. (also, I'm not COMPLETLY done with this room yet, I'm gonna add a water thingy, and possibly hay. But here is the bug chunck of the cake

[X-Antibody]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/HikerClaus5-22-10.png
First of all, the trainer sprite. The white parts have a different shading which doesn't blend in at all with the rest of it, and it should have some darker outline. The eyes should be 2px darker colour and 2px white like normal trainer sprites.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/EntireOverworldHikerClause-1.png
I think we're still in GBA style (forget if it's RSE or FRLG) for overworlds? Meh, prove me wrong. Beard needs outline on the front sprites, the sack should be more rounded (or blockier if achievable since it's filled with boxes of presents) Eyes actually look fine in the ow.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CarabriskSpriteSheet.png
Not so white! Give it a more solid outline.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Hiker-Clause-House-Daytime.gif
I like it, but generally stay away from such dark outlines on the roof. Use the lighter colour you used to outline the building.
For both the night and the day ones, the columns need work. Don't zoom in before applying the white, since it looks bad. Do the white swirls before magnifying the image to show us.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Main-Room.gif
Looks decent but the DP overworld doesn't fit in with the RSE tiles. Same zooming in problem with the patterns on the mat.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Attic-1.png
Plain, simple, nice. But why is there snow on the indoor trees and there's the zooming in thing with the cutoff in the checkered mat part.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/BF-1.gif
Same thing with the tree. Oh, and we don't want to be sued for giving someone's child an eplieptic seizure because of the flashing tree and tvs.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/BF1SideRoom.png
Tree snow why blablabla. Is that a coffee maker? 8D
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Basement.gif
Stairs' outline is too dark for the actual colour of the steps, the Caribrisk ow still looks odd to me.

[Quinn]

I'll work with most of it. To answer some questions and state some stuff.
1. The DP overworld might not look right now, but IB says it works (awhile back ago, I think?)
2. You haven't seen those freaky trees that have that white shit sprayed on them? Its actually kinda cool. Thats what those are.
3. For one, the TV wont be flashing as fast, it will be like the ones in RSE. Also, 2nd, if slowed down, I dont think it would give kids epilepsy. Why do I say that though (sounds like a bold statement), but I'm actually slightly epileptic myself. I can't watch those super flashy thingys at parties.
4. It could be. It could also be Hot chocolate, but choose whatever suits you. (me, it would be a mocha machine ;) ....mmmmmm....
5. I dont know if its just me, just you or what, but I actually can't see the issues with the overworlds of Carabrisk and "SC". Idk though. ;P
I'll get to most of the other stuff in a bit, I've got some "editing" to do with something else first.
6. I was actually going for that kinda "odd" look on the entrance mat.

[Quinn]

I did most of the changes X-antibody and some other people said.
I'm starting to try to finalize this, so here is what we have.
Name: Pokemon Trainer Saint Nick? Care Giver Saint Nick? Kind Man Saint Nick? (Not Santa Clause)
Sprite: (IB, you said you wanted him laughing and winking right? Used Watson as a "look at")
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/HikerClaus5-29-10.png
Team:
Stanter
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Hypnosis
Stomp
Confuse Ray
Powder Snow?

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Blizzard
Cold Wind
Hail
Confuse Ray

Stantler
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Take Down
Hypnosis
Psychic
Powder Snow

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Cold Wind
Ice Beam
Icicle Whip
Double Team
From here on out, pick your 2 favs. (I think I might make a poll for this)
Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv. ???
Gender ???
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Hail
Hypnosis
Wolfrost
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Icicle Whip
Howl
Crush Claw
Avalanche
Polarice
Thick Fat
Lv. ???
Gender ???
Crush Claw
Slack Off
Roar
Avalanche/ Hyper Beam
Sirene
Light Absorb
Lv ???
Gender ???
Light Wave
Hydro Pump
Perish Song
Riptide/ Hyper Beam
Frostorm
Cold Snap
Lv. ???
Gender ???
Weather Ball
Tempest
Icy Wind
Cold Wind

Overworlds
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/HikerClauseNew.png
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/NewCarabrisk.png
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/NewStantlerOverworld.png
NPC lines
Intro:
Win:
Loss:
House
Outside:
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-House-Day-5-30-10.gif
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-House-Night-5-30-10.gif
(If you look at the roof, the day doesn't have the "flat land" as the night does under the footprints. It has "snowed over" during the day, and is "flatted" at night.)
Inside
Main Room
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Main-Room-Day-5-30-10.gif
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Main-Room-Night-5-30-1.gif
(Ya'll know that during the day he chases his Carabrisk around the table like "peeko and Mr. Brinney"...I just didn't wanna "fully" animated that).
Attic
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-House-Attic-5-30-10.png (Doesn't change day and night. I still like the "fake snow" tree better though)
Instead of going upstairs, go downstairs to the "kick back room"
BF 1
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Day-5-30-10.gif (Populated with youngster boys and girls)
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Night-5-30-.png
(I dont know how the night system works, but how it changes outside, it would actually also do the same thing in this room and the side room. I know it turns a bit darker, but I couldn't capture "exactly" how the night stuff works. You get what I’m saying though, right?)
BF 1 Side room
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Side-Day-5-.png
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Side-Night-.png (Populated with sleeping youngster boys and girls. This is why I REALLY need the overworlds, so I can create the sleeping ones. Also, “DITTO” of what I said above with the night stuff)
Go down the final stairs and...
Basement
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Basement-Room-Day-5-30.gif
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Basement-Room-Night-5-.png
(If ya'll think this is better than them walking in place then great! I was thinking in that far corner area, have a "unseen" item, idk what though. How do you get to that item? You ease over there. It would actually be really easy if you think about it If you dont like that idea though, they could just walk in place and be no item. Either way though, the night is still the same)

[ImmunityBow]

I think the face is a vast improvement. The overworlds, though, you haven't really implemented any of the improvements I suggested. You might want to look back in the topic and my previous PMs to find them. (Mainly about the shading needing to be more curved and natural)

[Quinn]

I thought I nailed that, but alright. Is there anything else? (*hopes not too much, wants to finish this)

alright I'll get to that, though I actually thought my edit nailed that.

[zeroality]

Are you having trouble editing your posts? We generally don't allow double posting if its within the 30 minute edit time limit.

[Quinn]

yah. I can't always log on within the 30 minutes of the editing time, so I post under. Also, if there is a post under one, It isn't a double post right? (Someone said it would be easier for me if I asked for more "editing" powers)

[zeroality]

I know you can't edit after 30 min but that second post was after 3-4 min.

[Cranky Guy]

Hey Quinn I just want to ask why did you block the door to a room with the snow covered trees? And the childrens room too. You put another snow covered tree there and it seems to be blocking a hole ( Or whatever that is).

[Quinn]

you might remember places in Sootpolic (Idk how to spell it) and Mossdeep city, there were homes that actually had the same thing. For one, the dorr is blocked by trees and the other by 1 tree (if I remember right). Same thing here. The rooms it blocks are one room that goes into both the children room and the kickback room. It was actually gonna be the factory, with big machines and junk like that, but that was gonna be hell, so I didn't make it. I wanted people to still question it, so I put the trees in those areas.

[Quinn]

I've read that cave of dragonflies spriting guide (shading part) over and over and over again, I and I just cant get how to shade the hat more. I can see what you mean, and I have messed around with it, but I still have no idea how to change it up better....(sad that I dont know the shading)

[Quinn]

Okay, here is another one of those detailed descriptions.

Name: Saint Nick (Not santa clause)

Trainer Type: Pokemon Trainer/Caregiver/Kind Man

Sprite: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/HikerClaus5-29-10.png

Over-world Sprite: Still having issues with.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/HikerClauseNew.png

Over-world Pokemon Sprites:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/NewCarabrisk.png http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/NewStantlerOverworld.png

Battle Interface: Not confirmed
Background:
1. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Background1.png
2. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Background2.png
3. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Background3.png
Battler areas.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Hero.png http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/enemy.png
Preview: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CopyofSaintNickPreview.png

NPC lines: Not confirmed
Intro: HO HO HO. (Merry Christmas. What it isn't Christmas/ have you been good or naughty lately?
Win: Great battle! your definitely on the good list.
Loss:
Overworld NPC: ?

Team

Stanter
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender. ???
Hypnosis
Stomp
Confuse Ray
Powder Snow?

Stanter
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender. ???
Take Down
Hypnosis
Psychic
Icy Wind

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender. ???
Blizzard
Cold Wind
Hail
Confuse Ray

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender. ???
Cold Wind
Ice Beam
Icicle Whip
Double Team

Wolfrost
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender. ???
Icicle Whip
Howl
Crush Claw
Avalanche

Polarice
Thick Fat
Lv. ???
Gender. ???
Crush Claw
Slack Off
Roar
Avalanche/ Hyper Beam

Battle Times: Not confirmed
During day only. Monday -Wednesday -Friday (If we have days, if not, once every 48 hrs.) Team levels up after elite 4, but moves dont change.


(Next Post = house info)

[Quinn]

Outside house.

Morning-Night:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-House-Day-5-30-10.gif
Night-Morning:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-House-Night-5-30-10.gif


Inside House (these are big, so instead of the image, they are in Hyperlink)
Main room:
Morning-Night: (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Main-Room-Day-5-30-10.gif)
Night-Morning: (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Main-Room-Night-5-30-1.gif)

Attic:
All times: (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-House-Attic-5-30-10.png)

Living/Lower room
Morning-Night: 1. (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Day-5-30-10.gif) 2. (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Day-6-20-10.gif)
populated with youngster over-world sprites. (yet to be made)
Night-Morning (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Night-5-30-.png) (they turn the same as outside)

Youngster NPC's: Not confirmed
Hi
Hello there
Sorry, I'm busy
Hello, are you cold? You can stay as long as you want

Lower Room Side
Morning-Night (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Side-Day-5-.png)
Night-Morning (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Lower-Room-Side-Night-.png) Ditto Lower Rooms Night. Also, populated with sleeping younsters.

Youngster NPC's: Not confirmed
zzzzzzzz
zzzzz...snore...zzzzz

Stable/Basement Room
Morning-Night (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Basement-Room-Day-5-30.gif)
Night-Morning (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Saint%20Nick/Hiker-Clause-Basement-Room-Night-5-.png)

[ikkyblob]

Yay! Verbal clap!

[Merlin]

it looks good so far...
is it nearing completion or does it require something else???
because i personally think that it looks really great right now...

[Quinn]

to my knowledge, its mainly done. Just a bit more changes to the tiles, and it will be good. Also, the overworld is a bit off. Also, its DPP not FrLg, so it might have to be redone :(

[Merlin]

Not bad though...
that's very very good...
and it'll be ready for the game and/or the demo if it's in there...

[Quinn]

its not gonna be anywhere near the demo. Its in frost town, and the demo only goes to the 2nd gym. But yah, its "mostly" ready.

[Zenith]

Random thought...would it be slightly more tougue-in-cheek/professional if we called him "Old Man Nicholas"?

And I'm guessing he gives you something when you beat him, right? A TM or something like that? Haven't been around in a while...

[Quinn]

we have about 4 ideas now for his type. Old Man is now also on there.

2nd. We dont know yet. Since the rudolf shiny didn't win, I was thinking maybe that could be like a notched ear pichu thingy. (thats a new idea) there has been the move tutor, pokemon giver and many other ideas

[Zenith]

What about the Dive HM? Do we have that anywhere yet?

[Quinn]

santa and dive I dont think would go too well. it seems nice to inncorperate him with the adventure (I wish I could get that somehow), but I dont think dive would be the best. Thats just me though. Who knows, dive might be the best thing yet.?

[Zenith]

Well, compared to what? Since he's in a town you can't reach until late in the game, it'd have to be something like Dive or Waterfall if it's an HM.

Doesn't seem right just giving out a shiny like that. This isn't through a promotion like Spiky Ear was for HGSS, and the main reason Red Gyarados existed in GSC was to establish the existence of shinies.

[Quinn]

yah, HM's are a good idea. I'm just not so sure about which one or even if though...though thats just me. I'm kinda leaning toward the move tutor. It wouldn't be shiny though, it would be an "alternate" it would be the only way you could get that color sceme. like how shellos, you have one in the west, and one in the east, for this, there would be the normal, the shiny, and this other one and he's the only way to get it. Yet again, I'm for him teaching fly to stantler or carabrisk though. (and maybe have some other "snowy, christmasy moves to teach other stuff."

[Cyndadile]

Yeah, a winter-themed Move Tutor would be good. Maybe he doesn't like Team Rocket people, so he charges them but not Orions?

[Quinn]

hahahahah. That actually might actually go somewhere. If thats the case though, we would need something for the rockets.

Not to get off topic, but maybe Miror B could. (not really for it, but still)

[Cyndadile]

That might work. I'm serious, though, Santa would not like to deal with Rockets. He could say something about using the money for some cause or another, though.

[Quinn]

so maybe something as.

Fly: only for stantler and Carabrisk, kinda like the guy that teach the "ultimate" moves, but only to your starter's final evo

maybe some things like coldwind, icywind, stuff that isn't TM

maybe a couple light and normal stuff. Something that would have to deal with "happyness" and "light"

and for the rockets. they would have to pay like in XD, depending on move. Fly would be the most, since its impossible otherwise.

That being said, I dont really wanna use my Miror B as a move tutor, I want him a wandering trainer like the TV people in RSE.
What could we do for the rockets?

This might go somewhere.

[plkio]

fly for carabrisk ! What an idea !
(i just had to post after reading this... back to studying)

[SilentSentinel]

Why not just have him give out a Blizzard TM? We need that for somewhere, and Move Tutors are a lot more difficult to code than a simple TM gift from what I've heard from friends. It would also create a bias toward Ice moves since we are currently only planning for about 15 moves to be taught.

[Quinn]

if he's willing to give it out every other day, alright. But dont we have a department store or gamecorner that will have that? (If we dont have the game corner, we should) I know about the orange treeko bar (dont get rid of it, just rename it) and triple triad, but we should have a gamecorner somewhere if we dont already. RETURN OF THE SLOTS!

He battles once every other day, unless we have the week feature, then it would be like Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

[Zenith]

Ha, Fly on the Stantler line. That's pretty good. But he would only offer that if you already had the Fly HM.

Yeah, the other moves need to be ones that aren't already TMs. And we need to give people a way to get multiple copies of Ice Beam & Blizzard. One of the reasons I actually liked Voltorb Flip in HGSS was 'cause it relied mostly on logic instead of pure luck.

[Quinn]

true.
I think a move tutor would be good still...sorry RP. A couple light, normal, and ice moves.

If we have the game corner, we could have the blizzard there, and icebeam in the department store. (same with fireblast/flamethrower and thunder/thunderbolt)
I still liked slots better, but I'm really good at the vortorb flip. And yah, you have to think. Though with the slots it isn't pure luck, you have to time it right (its tough, but you stare at a part of your screen and when 7 is right above, you hit. I get it almost every time).

[Cyndadile]

I was kinda disappointed that it was only Voltorb Flip in HGSS.

Sorry, a bit off-topic but I felt I had to say it.

[Merlin]

well one thing's for sure: it's gonna be interesting to watch a pokemon who normally doesn't fly get taught the HM Fly...
so i say go with it...

but i do think it would be good if you could get a renewable TM or something from the guy...
(if you think about it a once only tm is a pain to deal with as you've gotta give it to the correct pokemon and then breed through about 20 levels of pokemon before finally getting it on to the one you want...)

[Silver]

props to quinn cause clause is class

[Silver]

I was kinda disappointed that it was only Voltorb Flip in HGSS.

me too....

flying stanler!ahhhhhhhhhhh!
hmmm funny.

[Quinn]

I dont get why they just didn't put the slots in them all except the russian ones (isnt that the one that platinums didn't appear in, since legal stuff?)

Yah, flying stantler and Carabrisk. It might be just me, but that I really like.


props to quinn cause clause is class
I'm dumb, so what do you mean?

I can see fly seems like a stong idea, like tutor wise, but what about other stuff? I've heard renewable TM, The Dive HM , a "christmas based" move tutor, a tutor that likes orions, but makes rockets pay. So what? I'm for the move tutor (possibly the orion friendly one, but not sure), or the Dive HM and he just teaches fly after.

[Cyndadile]

I like Orion-friendly "Christmas based" move tutor.

[Silver]

never mind

[Quinn]

never mind

alright. I just got back from swimming so after holding my breath for laps, and having the sun beat on my head, I'm kinda out of it.