Item Sprites

[Bazero]

Hey Guys

I tried my hand at the Blessed Anhk item that evolves Slowbro, don't know if it turned out very well, someone may have to touch it up a bit, but anyway, I used the RSE key sprite as a base, also I am not a master of spriting quite yet, so don't expect masterpieces.
Feedback appreciated!:D Thanks

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[zeroality]

What are the bars on the sides? As for the ankh, it looks good except the circular part isn't smooth and the shading is too dark on the right side.

[NyteFyre]

i believe that the bars are all the different colors/shades he used in the making of the ankh. It's a common trick used by most spriters, though they usually cut it out, and make a second save file for sharing after they finish their current version of it. the save file with the bars is for when they need or wish to make adjustments, that way it's easier to figure out which colors they need to change.

[zeroality]

That is useful, yes. I've never sprited or done pixel art so I didn't know what it was.

[Bazero]

Yeah, I left it there just in case someone wanted to try to make it a bit better, I'm not the best at scratching parts to it, so that explains the rough edges, ill have another go at it, thanks guys.

[ImmunityBow]

Yeah, most spriters use palettes because they all come from recolouring backgrounds. I find that those who start off doing sprites that aren't splices/recolours tend not to use palettes as much.

That looks like a good base. The overall shape is there, it just needs quality edits so that it looks less like it's floating. I also think that a golden colour scheme would be better than the current metallic one, so that it looks like a Light-type item, not a Steel-type.

[ImmunityBow]

Maybe something like this?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8784/blessedankh.png

[Bazero]

I made a gold one, it didn't turn out very well, I tried to make it gold trimmed and ended up coloring the whole thing yellow..
I like that version, although if you look up Ankh, you'll see they are more rounded on the edges and go out a bit more, you'll see what I mean.
Ill have a look at the other items and maybe give them a go.

[zeroality]

I liked how the sides of the cross were pronounced in Bazero's sprite. That is how an ankh is supposed to look, but your circle is much smoother yea.

[Bazero]

Heres the Spungy Herb >>> 23

I think it turned out rather well, had a hard time choosing colors though, did you want your items to be from scratch? Not just recolors of other sprites?
What do you think?
Anybody want to try and make the IB's Ankh curvy sided, I really don't think i can do it.

[ImmunityBow]

I can fix it. It should only take 5 minutes or so.

While recolours are acceptable, especially in terms of things that Gamefreak tends to recolour (say, X Sp. Defense), any good scratches are immediately preferable. As for herbs I'd prefer them to be scratches, but if you could post up other herbs in the Pokemon games for comparison the decision would be easier.

[Bazero]

The Herbs from RSE looked like this 26 25 27 And theres mine.

I think you could use the Choice scarf as a base for a Topaz herb, just scratch the rest, 24 looks like a herb to me.

Do you guys have something set in your mind to what your Herb could look like, gives me an idea where to start.

[ImmunityBow]

Since herbs are one of those things that don't seem to be simple recolours most of the time I'd prefer them as heavy edits or scratched. As for how they look just interesting leaf patterns is okay.

[Bazero]

As you see from my original Blessed Ankh sprite, I suck at scratching, so do you have any items that don't need to be scratched?
Also which items are needed for the demo?

[ImmunityBow]

Dairy Incense: Boost effects of healing moves/items by 20%. Allows Miltank to give birth to Moocalf.
-> Can be just an edit of a current incense since that's what Gamefreak does.

Burning Coal: If the holder of this item gets hit by a physical move, the opponent will become Burned. One-time use.

Dune Ball: Works better on pokemon found in sand (1x usual catch rate, 3x in Sand)

[zeroality]

Didn't someone do a dune ball?

[Blade Flight]

I think BTG made one, but I can't remember for sure.

Anyway, I tried my hand at the Burning Coal, but I think it looks more like a lava rock than a lump of coal...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3279/itemburningcoal.png

[ImmunityBow]

Alternate take on Burning Coal:
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3585/burningcoal.png
Blessed Ankh, with flares:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8784/blessedankh.png

Still working up the willpower to finish Kraklaw again.

[zeroality]

I really like the burning coal sprite IB! It's perfect.

Ankh is better but I still feel the sides of the cross are too small. They should be pretty much proportionate to the bottom.

Bazero that was a good attempt, I hope you keep doing them.

[Bazero]

Thanks Zero, heres the Dairy Incense.

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Any good?

[ImmunityBow]

It seems like there isn't any shading? I like the idea of having cow spots but I do think they could be implemented a bit better. For one they're all in a line whereas they would probably look better scattered a bit more naturally. My other idea was just to put a pink oval in the middle, but that's coming from my Ragnarok Online days.

[Bazero]

You can shade white??? I did scatter them but ill see what else I can do.
Why a pink oval, how is that dairy?

[Blade Flight]

You can shade white??? I did scatter them but ill see what else I can do.
Why a pink oval, how is that dairy?

I find it "udder"-ly silly to not realize what a pink spot on a cow-related item means. XD

[ImmunityBow]

You can shade white by using a shade of light grey tinted with whatever hue you need to use.

[ImmunityBow]

I must admit that spriting items is much more instantaneously gratifying than scratching Pokemon:

Blessed Ankh with bigger arms:
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8784/blessedankh.png

Plain Stone:
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/3237/plainstone.png

Magma Stone:
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2227/magmastone.png

Resist Scarf:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9232/resistscarf.png

[Quinn]

maybe I could help with this? possibly? what even needs to be done?

[ImmunityBow]

http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/showthread.php?366-Topaz-Items-TMs

[Quinn]

little edit to the dairy incense.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/DairyIncense.png

[ImmunityBow]

Maybe, actually. That doesn't look bad at all.

[NyteFyre]

Agreed! Though i think it would look cool with some white or gray vapors emanating from it.

[Quinn]

steamed milk? I've heard of it, but idk.
Flare and Iron
(if anything should be steaming, it should be this one.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/FlareIncense.png
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/IronIncense.png

[NyteFyre]

Vapors as in scent, aromas, like the ones you see on the Aromatherapist Trainer Chicks.

[Quinn]

yah, I know what your meaning. I'm just debating if it would look good or not (to me)
I was going to do pokeballs, but I dont know which size they are, I've seen 3 different sizes on google.

[SilentSentinel]

Wow IB, the resist scarf is really cool.

/gets out of area where he has no knowledge

[zeroality]

I like the stones and the scarf IB, especially the scarf. Very good job on that one! Not sure about the ankh so I'll let others comment on it.

Quinn, I really like the Flare/Iron Incense but not sure about your edit of the Dairy Incense. Doesn't it seem a little 'busy' compared to the other two?

As for the Pokeball size, here is MewLover's Dune Ball: http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6493/duneball.png

I assume it's the right size.

[Quinn]

alright. I'm kinda busy to work with the ball right now though
(I've got mixed thoughts with the dairy one though)

[ImmunityBow]

A few quality edits to the Resist Scarf that were bothering me. I don't expect many people to see that much difference but they were bothering me:

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9232/resistscarf.png

Rivalry Orb:
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5338/rivalryorb.png
This one ended up being really hard. The concept was really hard to execute and the whole thing about making it a shiny orb-thing is nearly impossible.

[Quinn]

though the rivalry orb looks good, and how it evolves Zangoose and Seviper, I think it should be ALOT simpler. Like a Red-Blue mix (There's blue on seviper right?)

[ImmunityBow]

A simple red-blue mix is really boring though.

[Quinn]

it might be kinda boring, but it would be less "busy". If there is a different sceme you can think of, go for it, but with the one right now, it would be hell to try to shade.

[zeroality]

I hate to say it, but I agree that it needs to look 'less busy'. You kinda have to lean up close and really look at it to see what the design is.

I also agree that a simple red/blue mix would be terribly boring so perhaps you can find a happy medium?

Resist Scarf is a masterpiece though!

[Quinn]

I hate to say it, but I agree that it needs to look 'less busy'.
lol, zero doesn't like agreeing with underlings.
This was just epic fail, but oh well.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/RivalryOrb.png
These 2 on the other hand I think look pretty cool. I just shaded a normal ball, threw in some noise, then threw in some effects.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/RivalryOrb2.png
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/RivalryOrb3.png
with all the effects though, it actually changed the color count to 180 something. I took that and was able to get it down to 8! Big change.

[ImmunityBow]

I like the effect you got on the last two, but they don't look like "Rivalry Orb" to me. I feel that Rivalry Orb needs to symbolize a fight or some kind of struggle.

Some more:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2011/calopaberry.png
Calopa Berry, based off of those cantaloupe "melon balls" but organicized into a berry. (I didn't want to basically copy Watmel)

I don't like this one nearly as much, but maybe someone can take the design and improve upon it. Twilight Crest:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1089/twilightcrest.png

[zeroality]

Wow, that concept for the Twilight Crest is hot. I don't think there is anything wrong with the amulet itself, just the strings.

[Quinn]

I'm not sure if possible, but the moon looks SLIGHTLY crunched, maybe put the ends a pixel or 2 for both. Its scary how noticably that could change it. Other than that and the string though, its hot!

[zeroality]

Disagree.

[Quinn]

Disagree.

It just seems like a plump moon, thats all.

[ImmunityBow]

The moon doesn't seem that plump to me, though I'll try to fix the string.

[neon.Barnacle]

Something about the amulet's shape bothers me. I know what you're trying to go for, but to me it looks more like a slice of blue melon.

Also, if Rivalry Orb's concept proves to be too hard, we can probably change it to something other than an orb, like a Plate or Ring, perhaps.

[Shadow Umbreon]

Question, how would Seviper hold an orb? I go with a ring for that reason (ring fits around both, orbs =/= can be held by Seviper.)

[Quinn]

how does a magikarp hold an orb? It still can. Its just one of those weird things.
I'm sorry IB, I'm just not a fan of your berry. (A pinkish recolor with a brown edge would change my mind, I think)
Topaz version color bike: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Bike.png
Berry: (theres like 5 berries in this. Is it supposed to be like a cantalope? I didn't know for sure) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CalopaBerry.png

[Shadow Umbreon]

Looks blocky, use a lighter shade on the left.

[Quinn]

Yah, I thought it was just my eyes, but I guess not ;)
that being said...this is still really good, IB, just a recolor might look better. http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2011/calopaberry.png http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/CalopaBerry.png can you see what I mean? By the way...Idk why, but totally serious, your berry reminds me of Venap

[Shadow Umbreon]

You made a berry using colours you picked and thought an all black (big no-no) outline was just your eyes? O.o Also, true though your Magikarp statement is, this is designed for to specific pokemon. It should make sense for at least them.

[Quinn]

theres a dark green brown on the edges, if I remember right, if I forgot, then that is a mistake on my part.

[ImmunityBow]

A ring is perfectly fine too, I don't think anyone's overly attached to it being an orb.

What I don't like about your berry, Quinn, is that it looks inside out. It looks bevelled. Why don't you try recolouring mine? I don't quite see what you mean about the colours.

[Quinn]

that seems good. I'll do that tonight (if I have time)
does it not look kinda like a plump venap though? got the legs, the arms...

[zeroality]

I like the berry IB made but if you think it'd look better with other colors then go ahead and recolor it.

As for the bike, it's a good start but I think the features are too 'mashed together' (for lack of a better phrase) because of the angle. I think it should be redone to have the features properly proportionate instead of angling it for the dimensional depth.

[Quinn]

to zero. The funny thing is, is that is the RSE one, with recolor ;)

I haven't posted my recolors yet? I completely forgot. I uploaded them, but I guess I never posted them :P

[ikkyblob]

I have another Rivalry Orb
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5338/rivalryorb.png

[Quinn]

With a bit more contrast with the seviper side, that looks like a good one! I'm all for it. Especially the yin yang thing going on. Good job!

[ikkyblob]

This good?
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5338/rivalryorb.png.....
Looking back on it, I don't like this one, and I thing the other looks just fine, but I'll try anyway.

I finished fast enough to get it in with the edit button, so, without further ado, wallah!
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5338/rivalryorb.png

[Quinn]

oh, not like that. Take your old one and just lower the gray down, and do a quick hit of hue saturation with the purple.

Edit: Loving the new edit, 2nd one. Its got my vote down.

[ikkyblob]

Whoa, time-space paradox thingy.....^

[neon.Barnacle]

I like the design, but it looks a bit too large for an item sprite.

[ikkyblob]

It's the right size, 24x24.
Also, I didn't scratch it, I used IB's as a base.

[Quinn]

Does anyone wanna look at my balls? I've got lots of em. Enough to go around.

There are other items in that zip as well.

When I suggested about DP/HGSS balls a while back ago, no one was against it, so their in there as well, along with the dune ball of Mewlover.

[zeroality]

I think we want our pokeballs to be scratch sprited, or at the very least splices/recolors.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Most offical ones are just recolours. I remeber making a nice Dune ball by recolouring a Safari ball. The execption are pokeballs with added stuff which, IIRC, is just added on to the pokeball base.

[Quinn]

Our pokeballs should stay in the same position like thing as the officials though. Mewlovers is a great example of what I think should go down.

[Quinn]

Storm http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/StormBall.png
Solar: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/SolarBall.png
Diamond D: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/DiamondDust.png
Laser Lens:http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/LaserLens.png
Magic Herb: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/MagicHerb.png
Thorn Plant: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/ThornPlant.png
Toxic Slime: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/ToxicSlime.png
Vital Herb: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/VitalHerb.png
Arctic Stone: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/ArcticStone.png

[Cyndadile]

Those lookk great! Especially the laser lens and artic stone.

[ImmunityBow]

I don't think Diamond Dust should be a recolour.Thorn Plant looks fairly cool as does Arctic Stone, and I like the balls.

Laser Lens looks fine but doesn't represent the concept well enough for me. I don't think you should have the tacky beam there and I would imagine that the lens would be a good deal thinner.

Toxic Slime looks a bit too much like moss. The problem probably is that it holds its shape too well, and has too much of a leaf-green colouring.

It's hard to judge the herbs but maybe try making them simpler and cleaner?

[ImmunityBow]

Here's Berry Smoothie

http://a.imageshack.us/img375/7218/berrysmoothie.png

This was more of a pain to do than I thought it would be. Glass is pretty difficult to pull off and that umbrella just wasn't cooperating.

[Zenith]

I like it. Reminds me of Paper Mario.

[totodileman]

looks great! The straw seems a bit off though :P

[ImmunityBow]

Unfortunately there`s nothing I can do about the straw. It`s going to look weird simply because of how small the sprite is.

[totodileman]

could you do the simple 2-1-2-1 base? Go up 2, then 1, then 2. might work :P

[ImmunityBow]

Contrary to what most spriting guides say, that doesn`t work. It`s very mathematically correct but generally ends up in a very jagged looking line. It especially doesn`t work here because of the obstructive glass and smoothie that can extend and flatten the straw at points if patterned as such.

[totodileman]

where is this list you are finding the exclusive items on? I for one didn't see berry smoothie.

[Cyndadile]

Somewhere here (http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/showthread.php?366-Topaz-Items-TMs).

The last one on the first post. Although IB apparently edited it 2 days ago, so it could have been added then. :D

I'm kidding. Don't tear my head off. It is a lot easier to use when it is on. :p Much, much easier.

[ImmunityBow]

Yeah somehow when zero moved the list a few items didn't move with him. Berry Smoothie and X Special Defense were left out. I keep on getting the feeling I missed one more but I can't remember it for the life of me.

[Betatmw]

Just a simple recolour of the toxic slime, I believe that the shape of it was fine but it looks better in purple. I apologise for the lack of transparency.
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6804/slimep.png

I also had a go at the vine ball, I thought it needed to actually convey vines so I used a light tan (like a dirtish colour) for the top, but I think it might be too light? Once again an apology for the lack of transparency.

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/3/vineball.png

[ImmunityBow]

The toxic slime is too dark now, it's really difficult to make out the lines. Thanks for trying!

[Cyndadile]

It does look really cool, but it is a bit too dark for a pokemon item.

[Cxisbest]

http://www.iaza.com/work/101019C/Firball1509598481047-iaza.gif

Here's a solar ball sprite -I think it's a little "off" :/ It didn't come out as I imagined it...

[Betatmw]

I would've expected a lot more yellow and orange as opposed to red for the solar ball.

[Betatmw]

A bit more like this I was thinking http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/943/solarball.png
(I was trying to edit it into my last message but there doesn't seem to be an edit button?)

[Cxisbest]

http://www.iaza.com/work/101020C/iaza19921457800.gif

What about this? I got your point that it should be more "Orange and yellow"

[Blade Flight]

A bit more like this I was thinking http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/943/solarball.png
(I was trying to edit it into my last message but there doesn't seem to be an edit button?)

Edit buttons disappear after 30 minutes, I believe. D=

[Betatmw]

http://www.iaza.com/work/101020C/iaza19921457800.gif

What about this? I got your point that it should be more "Orange and yellow"

I don't see why the lines are needed? I'm thinking a more specialist looking ball for the solar ball, like how the great balls and that look, but then I think just a pure yellow one might look really good as well :/ What do you lot think?

[Cyndadile]

A bit more like this I was thinking http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/943/solarball.png
(I was trying to edit it into my last message but there doesn't seem to be an edit button?)

I like it! It might look cool if the orange parts didn't pop out, but I'm not sure.

[ImmunityBow]

I like Betatmw's Solar Ball. I'm pretty sure the Ultra Ball also had protruding edges and it even makes it looks a little better I think. Great job!

[ikkyblob]

I don't see why the lines are needed? I'm thinking a more specialist looking ball for the solar ball, like how the great balls and that look, but then I think just a pure yellow one might look really good as well :/ What do you lot think?

I think the lines were supposed to be solar flares of something.

[ikkyblob]

http://b.imagehost.org/0182/Toxic_Slime.png (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0182/Toxic_Slime)
I have an updated Slime

[Cyndadile]

I like Betatmw's Solar Ball. I'm pretty sure the Ultra Ball also had protruding edges and it even makes it looks a little better I think. Great job!

I wasn't sure if they did that before or not in the games. I know that, in the TV series at least, there were protruding spots on the Great and Master balls...

I just remembered! In the games, the net ball, apricot balls had that stuff too.

I origionally had an idea for if it was flat, but I forgot what it was... It was definitly related to the Sun, at least.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Well that's helpful :/
For the dune ball why not take a safari ball and recolour it? I did one but it was lost on the old forums. I'd do it again but don't have time ATM.

[Betatmw]

Like this ? http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2261/duneball.jpg

[ImmunityBow]

That looks very nice.

[Betatmw]

Was thinking either Thorny Plant or Jagged Herb?http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5203/thornyplant.png (Finally one which wasn't just a recolour!)

[ImmunityBow]

Not bad, certainly have seen plants like that IRL. Yes, it'll do well for Jagged Herb. Great job Betatmw!

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Ditto that ^
Great job on the Dune Ball and Herb! :)

[Betatmw]

Thankyou! :) Doesn't seem to be many more item sprites left to do, just finding inspiration for each one. Also tried the Rocket Ball but it was way to hard to get the 'R' onto it so I gave up.

[ImmunityBow]

Yeah, so I'm sorry for my relative inactivity lately (never thought I'd be the one to say this) and though parties and Phoenix Wright are decent excuses they don't really make up for it, so here's a little gift:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2613/spungyherb.png

Spungy Herb, interpreted somehow... It's not perfect but the item now has a sprite!

[SilentSentinel]

Well it does look Spungy! I think that hole on the top left could be a bit smaller though.

[Cyndadile]

I like the jagged herb. The spungy herb looks good, but maybe the leaf could be spread back a bit more, so that it doesn't fade in to the spungy part?

[Casscass]

I am wondering what items have been done already?

So I tried making a vine ball, the second pokeball I have ever made. XD Since i have found Pokemon Topaz, I have a desire to sprite so I tried doing this.

http://cass.zzl.org/Sprites/Images/Cass/vineball.bmp

[ImmunityBow]

A good attempt, though a little more detail is necessary.

If you look here (http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/showthread.php?366-Topaz-Items-TMs) you'll find all the certain items sprites.

[Casscass]

Man is it ever hard to get detail D:, so crammed.. was trying to get detail.. but only got colors...so far i got this
http://cass.zzl.org/Sprites/Images/Cass/greenballs.png

[ImmunityBow]

Yes, sprites are like Impressionist painting, and the smaller the sprite, the more of an Impressionist you need to be. Don't worry about clear-cut details and specificity, just work on a feel and run with that. For instance, you may want to make the vines more obvious, by thickening them and giving them body. And you could make your leaves protrude from the Pokeball instead of confining yourself to the ball's sphere itself. Therein lies the "art" part of spriting.

[MK94]

i suck at big sprites but a love deitale

[NyteFyre]

Made some edits to the Toxic slime, i don't know what else needs to be done though.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9571/iaza18902686147800.gif http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6137/iaza18902622250000.gif

I made two slightly different edits, if you like either of them.

[ImmunityBow]

While the colours are nice, one of the things that was brought up during Toxic Slime's development is how a Pokemon would actually hold Toxic Slime. I always imagined a vial but if you could make a compelling argument for how it is already that'd work too.

[NyteFyre]

well, the right side is more rounded, while the other side is sort of dripping-esque. You know what, if it was rotated so the right side is facing up, i could see the pokemon holding it, and some dripping between it's fingers, that way, when the opponent hits them, they could maybe put their hand up to block, and it would splash onto the opponent's skin, or something. A vial wouldn't work, unless you were going to throw it at the opponent with fling or something. I don't think i have the skill to bring that idea to fruition, so if you or Reli wants to attempt it, I'm game.

[Tyrannigon64]

Hey, what's the shrapnel supposed to look like?

[Cyndadile]

Whatever the spriter wants it to look like. As long as people agree on it.

[ImmunityBow]

If you need ideas I've always thought of Shrapnel as scrap metal, kind like when you crumple up a pop can and then stab at it with scissors.

[Blade Flight]

IB, why would a sane Trainer have their Pokemon carry that around?

Then again, that would also apply to the Sticky Barb and Black Sludge...

[Tyrannigon64]

How does that create a layer of spikes around the opponent? But thanks, at least now I can imagine it.

[SilentSentinel]

Well shrapnel is generally just shattered glass/metal, so a layer of spikes makes sense.

[Tyrannigon64]

Okay, I'm just not too familiar with the term.

[Sev]

http://tinypic.com/r/dcero3/7 new pokeball for ground pokemon? I call it Plosion ball

[Tyrannigon64]

I don't think we're accepting new items, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

[Blade Flight]

We are not accepting new items, I believe.

[Sev]

k just checkin, but it does suck anyway. just thought it could be a 2lvl ground type ball

[MeekRhino]

Could somebody compile all of the item sprites that are done and edit them into the thread that lists the items here (http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/showthread.php?366-Topaz-Items-TMs)?

[ImmunityBow]

You don't need to ask, it was already done but the images were lost in the site crash. It is and will be done, and any ones that aren't haven't yet been officialized because of lack of opinions.

[MeekRhino]

Oh OK. I didn't realize that, sorry.

[zeroality]

You don't need to ask, it was already done but the images were lost in the site crash.
I have them. I'll fix later.

[MeekRhino]

Awesome!

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2261/duneball.jpg

Just like to point out this looks very nice and to see if we can't get it officalized.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Vine Ball?:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3/vineball.png

[zeroality]

I like both of them. ImmunityBow's the one who needs to put on his stamp of approval though.

[Tyrannigon64]

I had sprites for both of those but forgot to upload them for while. I prefer BTG's Vine Ball over mine, but I like my Dune Ball better. I'm posting it, just to see what you guys think. http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=385

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6493/duneball.png

[ImmunityBow]

I thought the Dune Ball was already made official. The Vine Balls so far are a little uninspiring.

[Cyndadile]

IB, I know how you feel about splicing, but I wanted to give it a try:

http://cyndadile.webs.com/Vine%20Ball.png

(Vine Ball.)

[ImmunityBow]

(It's not just me)

The vines just don't seem to attach on to the ball naturally. You know, maybe it doesn't even need to be the "Vine Ball". It's effective in tall grass, not vines, anyway. There's nothing really cementing the name as is.

[Cyndadile]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6493/duneball.png

Is this the dune ball we're going with? If not, I present you with:

http://cyndadile.webs.com/Vine%20Ball%202.png

The...Moss Ball?

Also, I know its not just you. I'm not a fan of splices either. You're just one of the people who looks at this thread the most. If anyone cares, my old vine ball was Great ball+Timer Ball+stolen colors from some green colored ones (including other people's vine ones).

[zeroality]

Hey hey hey, wait a minute.

Which one is officialized? I need to make sure I have the correct copy.

The moss ball looks a lot like the dune ball...

[MeekRhino]

He's saying that if there is already a dune ball we could use his recolor of this dune ball as the moss ball

[ImmunityBow]

The Dune Ball is the official one. Moss Ball as a Dune Ball recolour doesn't quite cut it, mainly because it still does look like sand, though green.

[Sev]

i can take a shot at making a moss ball. I think i will be using reggigigas colors for it and by that i mean the moss at his feet
EDIT: Ok finished but i didn't scratch it =( i took a pokeball outline the placed that over reggigigas mossy feet lol
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4224/mossball.png (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/mossball.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[MeekRhino]

The band in the front needs to be more visible, and the outside needs outlined.

[Sev]

How about this? http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4224/mossball.png (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/mossball.png/)

And now i have hit SENIOR MEBER!... i think XD

[Tyrannigon64]

The colours have to be a bit lighter, but other than that, not bad.

[Sev]

would this work? http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4224/mossball.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/i/mossball.png/)

[Tyrannigon64]

The darker colour needs to be a tad darker, I think.

[Sev]

no cuz i increased lumanation on both by 20
EDIT: Do you think i should decrese saturation by ten on both of them?

[Tyrannigon64]

What does the fact that you increased luminance by 20 mean that you can't/shouldn't decrease the darker one's colour? Also, saturation's fine as it is.

[Sev]

if you want it that way please do it cuz i'm tired

[MeekRhino]

I still think that the outline needs to be more visible.

[Sev]

how is a dark gray over green not visible?

[MeekRhino]

Make it black and see what happens. I think that all of the other pokeballs have black outline.

[Sev]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2594/mossballbad.png (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/mossballbad.png/)

Turns out it wasn't black it was a darker gray but i don't think it looks good.
i recently had a skateboarding accident so typing is a inconvince, and so is spelling that. no stupid quesions and i can't do caps.

[Cyndadile]

It's too flat, and you can't see the button. It needs varying shades for depth and to account for the light source, and the button is the same color as the band.

[Sev]

It needs varying shades for depth and to account for the light source.
No it does not. the "random shading is in account for the bumpiness of moss and light oly projecting onto one part of it. The rest i will finish tonight

[MeekRhino]

The outline was a big improvement. And no amount of "bumpiness" would make it not look like a sphere--in other words, it does in fact need shading to that effect.

[zeroality]

Could someone do me a favor and make a post linking to all the item/pokeball/etc sprites that have been approved? I think I have a few but not sure what all has been done while I've been gone.

[MeekRhino]

Somebody said they were working on it. I don't recall who

[ImmunityBow]

Hmm..

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9232/resistscarf.png
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2011/calopaberry.png
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8784/blessedankh.png
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/3237/plainstone.png
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2227/magmastone.png
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3585/burningcoal.png
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7218/berrysmoothie.png
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/StormBall.png
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/ArcticStone.png
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2919/dairyincense.png
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3171/ironincense.png

If you're looking for what each of them is, it's in the URL.

[zeroality]

Man those are great. We only have one Pokeball approved though?

I'm not sure which Dune Ball you said was officialized; I saved 3 different ones I think. I seem to recall us having several balls, and I seem to be remembering a few other items too? Or is that just my imagination?

[ImmunityBow]

There was a Solar Ball sprite, but I really like betatmw's version so I wanted to first find out if people agree with that being the best possible option.

As for the Dune Ball, all the options seem good to me... I'm actually having a little trouble deciding.

There are a few that still need work though they appear earlier in the topic: Twilight Crest, Rivalry Orb, Thorn Plant, etc. Jagged Herb seems like it could be official too, I don't really see any way to improve it. Also I always seem to lose the X Special Defense sprite.

[zeroality]

Alright, I grabbed the Jagged Herb.

I'd appreciate anything else you can give me to put on the site IB. We need everything in one place.

[ImmunityBow]

I can try reediting the Twilight Crest sometime. If everyone's problem (besides neon) was just the chain, it's simple enough to remove most of the black outline.

[zeroality]

There is no try. There is only do.

That thing was awesome, I'd love to see an updated version. And X Sp Def for my?

Also Quinn sent me some item sprites in the 130mb worth of stuff he sent.

Magic Herb http://www.pokemontopaz.net/zero/MagicHerb.png - uh, is that a face in there?

Can I grab the Rivalry Orb (which version?) and Thorn Plant http://www.pokemontopaz.net/zero/ThornPlant.png as placeholders for now?

Laser Lens looks pretty bad but Diamond Dust http://www.pokemontopaz.net/zero/DiamondDust.png is decent.

He also sent me some Pokeballs but not sure which are official Nintendo ones or which are Topaz-made. It's a clusterfrack of files here.

[ImmunityBow]

I like the Thorn Plant but there's a definite no on the Diamond Dust since that's a recolour of an official sprite. Magic Herb seems a little too anemic.

I actually have no idea where X Sp Def is. It was a teal recolour of the "X Stat" item sprite.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

All the powder's are recolours of each other

[ImmunityBow]

The outline still seems off, and I'm sure we can do a little better than Gamefreak at least in this area >_>

[Tyrannigon64]

How do you expect Diamond Dust to look?

[ImmunityBow]

There are plenty of ways to have dust without it being simply piled on top of fabric. You can have it spilling out of a vial, you can have it just in a pile by itself (like Star Dust), or even just a neatly tied little pouch, closed or opened, both can work.

[zeroality]

Can I grab the Rivalry Orb (which version?)

[ImmunityBow]

Honestly, I don't know. My initial version didn't seem to be too popular and to be honest I'm not a fan of any of the edits, since they either didn't actually improve the shading any, seemed too flat, or just didn't actually evoke Rivalry (like Quinn's sprite, which was nice but didn't seem to represent anything)

[ImmunityBow]

Hows this for Twilight Crest?

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1089/twilightcrest.png

[Tyrannigon64]

I personally would prefer a black and white recolour, but I'll see if anyone agrees with me before recolouring it.

[Sev]

i agree with tyrannigon =)

[Cyndadile]

Rivalry Orb? A bit generic, but if we wanted to use it with Kuranpu...

http://cyndadile.webs.com/Rivalry%20Orb.png
I'm not sure which of the top two are better.
Also, weren't we going to have two halves? That's what the bottom is.

[ImmunityBow]

Sorry, in case it wasn't clear, the last sprite I posted was for Twilight Crest.

Kuranpu represent harmony, not rivalry. I think this is the wrong direction to take it.

[Cyndadile]

I know, I saw it earlier in the thread.

Also, I was just throwing an idea out there for the orb. As for the Kuranpu tie-in, I was thinking that it was angered by you using it or something.

And 3 more similar ideas:

http://cyndadile.webs.com/Rivalry%20Orb%202.png

[zeroality]

I'm sorry but those look flat and incredibly generic compared to the Rivalry Orb I saw posted a while ago.

As for the Twilight Crest, it's an improvement. I don't know why you two want a black/white recolor... I don't think that would work.

[zeroality]

spungy herb
http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23&d=1273303841
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2613/spungyherb.png

flare incense
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/FlareIncense.png

rivalry orb
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5338/rivalryorb.png
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5338/rivalryorb.png

dune ball (WHICH ONE IS OFFICIAL?)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2261/duneball.jpg
http://www.pokemontopaz.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=385
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6493/duneball.png

topaz bike
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/Bike.png

vital herb
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/quintinbruderer/Topaz/VitalHerb.png

vine ball
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/3/vineball.png
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3/vineball.png

IMO, the second spungy herb, flare incense, topaz bike, first vine ball, and vital herb are good enough to go on the site as placeholders at least. I'm gonna go ahead and do that for now, and I can take them down later if it's a big disagreement. At least if people dislike what is on the site, it will give them motivation to work to change/improve it!

Need to know which Dune Ball to use. 1 and 3 are similar and two is nice. So how about this, we pick either 1/3 or 2 to use then we reuse the design of the other one on another Pokeball? It'd just take some recoloring/shading to make it into a different ball.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

I vote for dune ball 3, adn the second rivalry orb.

[NyteFyre]

What BTG said.

[MeekRhino]

Agreed

[Cyndadile]

...I kind of like rivalry orb 1.

[ImmunityBow]

Can someone try defending the second rivalry orb with an argument? The way I see it, it's simpler without any of the benefits that come with being simpler. The solid red and fuchsia clash strongly with the rest of the design, and the swirly patterns look feeble. The shading isn't any better either, somehow it looks even more flat than the original.

I do like third Dune Ball best.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

It's clearer and neater than the first one? (rivarly orbs here)

[MeekRhino]

I think you are right, IB. I changed my mind, I like rivalry orb 1 better.

[zeroality]

4-2 in favor of first Rivalry Orb (ib, me, cyndadile, meek / btg, nytefyre).

Dune Ball is up (and all the items I mentioned), and Rivalry Orb is going up soon. Working on adding all item sprites with placeholders (including "no sprite" holders).

[Sev]

before that i made this and i like it better imo
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9269/rivalryorbrecolor.png (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/rivalryorbrecolor.png/)

[ImmunityBow]

All you did was recolour the Seviper? If I remember correctly I used the colours off of the official sprites for Seviper and Zangoose.

[Sev]

oh i just thought the fact that red on both sides was not that good of an idea

[Ryoka]

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n495/Ryoka1/Rainbowball.png
Heres a rainbow ball (1x catch rate, 3x in sunny weather?)

[Tyrannigon64]

We aren't accepting new ideas for items. Sorry!

[Sev]

It's great but we aren't accepting new sprite ideas. Right now we are finishing the last few sprites left.
Edit: Just asking, but who's vine/moss ball aqre we using

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Guys, we have one of those without a sprite right? Names can be changed and it's better than nothing.

[Tyrannigon64]

Oh yeah... Forgot about that!

[Sev]

Although if we change one to a rainbow ball it should have a better name like prisim ball.

[Noog]

I made a Laser Lens icon. It's basically a recolor of the Zoom Lens with an added laser beam thing.

http://i56.tinypic.com/11sngbo.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/6fnw5j.jpg (Larger version, at 24px/24px)

(A bit off topic, but I think it's "Spongy Herb", as I don't think "spungy" is a word.)

[ImmunityBow]

I always assumed that whoever made the Spungy Herb misspelled it intentionally. But now that I think about it, herbs do tend to have boring names anyway, so I guess I'll change it.

As for the Laser Lens, the colours seem to clash a bit, which considering that it's a recolour is a bit of a problem.

[Noog]

In that case, I've made a two more, one of which is basically using the same colors, just inverted. The other is, well, just another recolor with less clash between colors.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ue34ns.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/15849xd.jpg

[Sev]

They need to be png's not jpg's. Splices are banned from this forum and recolors are not prefered.
EDIT: Joke by splices are banned but in retrospect most people act like they are.

[Blade Flight]

They need to be png's not jpg's. Splices are banned from this forum and recolors are not prefered.
EDIT: Joke by splices are banned but in retrospect most people act like they are.

OK, I'm gonna be VERY blunt: you are not helping in the slightest here. You are essentially backseat modding, IMO, and even if Zero/IB deem you not to be, you are not being constructive at all with what you're saying. Drop the "I know everything" attitude, now. It's not helping new users want to stay here.

[Reliability]

You are essentially backseat modding
Oh, the irony.

@Noog: Infinity is correct: you'll save yourself a lot of heartache by saving as png's. jpg's decrease their own file size each time they're saved, which degrades the quality of the image. If your using MS Paint, you can also save it as a bmp, which will convert to a png when hosted on imageshack (or whatever site you use).
I won't be able to make a complete judgment until I see the png version, but your first one in your latest post looks fine. The yellow may need some more saturation though: it looks a little bland and has potential to be a lot more sci-fi flashy, if that makes any sense.

@Infinity: Though everything that you said is vaguely correct, try to tone down the way you put things to extremes. Saying things the way that you did in this post (as an example) is coarse and unhelpful because it does not say WHY these things have to be the way they are. Stating these facts without backing them up is frustrating to some people, which is why you are getting negative reactions sometimes. If you can't back up a statement that you make, people won't listen to you.

@Pikang: Every accusation you made towards Infinity, you are guilty of as well. In this instance, you also are not being very constructive and are coming across as "knowing everything." If you want to offer advise towards other members and improving their posts, it may also be prudent to do it through PM, or at least contribute to the topic in which you are doing it. Not everyone is experienced at writing clearly as you may feel they ought to be, but censoring them is not an effective method of correction. To use your words,

It's not helping new users want to stay here.
If you can't say something nicely, don't say it at all. Otherwise, you risk coming across as elitist.

[Blade Flight]

My apologies, Reli, but I need to talk with you in private. But not now. I need to get some rest.

[Quinn]

For one...I gotta say PWNED. HAHA. If anyones a moderator, its me ;) jk jk jk. I'm not that cool.

As for the sprite...I'll see if I can make the 1st "contructive critisim" on it.
...hahaha. Ironic, I made one actually like that too Noog. When I was more active. Now...yours does look a lot better, but when I think about lasers, I think laser tag. I can't remember what this item is actually called, but for one...the 1st one seems too desaturated, as the 2nd seems too dark. I think lasers as bright neon per say. If your going for the gunlike feel, change the handle a bit, possibly put a scope, and add some "button" that can let off the laser. Color wise, you could keep it original and go with say...a REALLY dark, grey black gun, BUT with a couple of glowing green lights on it, and the beam released being blue. Or vica versa, to keep the red laser junk staleness outta it. You understand my big rant? :)
and sorry bout that not so friendly welcome above...we can sometimes be a hecktec bunch, but we are ALL pretty good people. I too was there in your state. Dont mind the stuff too much, and if somethin gets to you, tell me. Whenever I can actually get on again...I'll pwn em MYSELF ;) (or you can get a Mod or admin, probably your better shot. Haha)

[ImmunityBow]

In the end the main issue I have with the sprite is that it doesn't really embody a "Laser Lens" so much as a "Laser Gun." However, Laser Lens is rather vague, so one constructive thing we could all do is describe how we see a Laser Lens.

Some suggestions:
- Lens implies an optical device, so it should look like it would fit right onto a Pokemon's eye. So, main parts could include an eyepiece and whatever is holding the eyepiece to the wearer. Everything else is decorative.
- The sprite doesn't necessarily have to include the laser itself, since that's hard to depict without looking cheesy.
- Green matrix lines could be a good motif to use for decoration, if there's enough space.

[Cyndadile]

A combination of a monocle and binoculars, with a bright green color. Maybe a red button. Monoculars?

[ImmunityBow]

One thing I find is that green and red don't go exceptionally well together. Maybe black would be a better colour.

[MK94]

hey I.B. do you still have that fossil i made....
cause i was thinking sence they are ice age based they should be ivory in ice?

[ImmunityBow]

I do!

http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/2945/fossils.png

I don't think it matters much (how would one carry around ice other than Nevermeltice, lest it melt?)

[MK94]

could i do it for the heck of it?

[MK94]

they are now on my stuff folder alond with my venamp consept art
so come check it out
[sorry for double posting]

[ImmunityBow]

Sorry, what stuff folder? I checked your profile and there's no album, and the fossils link I have were uploaded anonymously, I think.

[MK94]

okay here it is http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8199/newfossils.png

[zeroality]

Next time use the direct image link instead of http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/newfossils.png/ - you can get that by right clicking the image and either "view image" or "open image in new tab" and copying the address.

As for the sprites, not bad. They need work but I'm not sure where to start since I don't sprite. I'll defer to someone else here.

[ImmunityBow]

The main issue would be with how they lie. If you picture it in game, it looks not-quite-pinned to the wall. If it were leaning backwards more and the thickness was directed more to the bottom right, it would then have the same positioning as the other items in Pokemon.

[MK94]

yah i relized that right after i put them in image shack but there are beter ones in my stuff folder now (i made sure i did it right)

[Eduardo]

Here a sprite for a X Special Defense (I think X Special Defend a better name), I use a brown pallete, and I hope you guys like

[NyteFyre]

This is a very nice looking, almost professional sprite. My only problem is that I believe we already have a finalized X Special Defense sprite. Someone correct if I'm wrong, please. Maybe we could compare the two, and pick the better of them. Idk, this should probably be taken up with IB.

[Eduardo]

I made this because I look at the items sprites page, and the X Special Defence doesn't have a spreite there, so I did one...
I use GIMP to make the sprite, it's a very good image editor, almost as good as Photoshop, and it's free!

[Reliability]

Yeah, I don't know of a finished X Special Defence. And if it isn't on the site, then I would have remembered it being made recently...

But I do like yours, Eduardo. The palette is nice.

I never liked GIMP, personally. I still prefer MS Paint over everything.

[Eduardo]

How about my Solar Cell?
I work with some sprites from Megaman X 3, and change the pallete to something more Pokémon Style, I can make some changes, if you want to

[ImmunityBow]

The X-Special Defense is a recolour of all the other X-whatevers, so in the end it doesn't matter whether we've really finalized it or not. We definitely had a sprite before though.

My main gripe with the solar cell is that you can't really tell what it is without being told what it is. Which part is which? How are you supposed to look at it?

[Eduardo]

I see the Solar Cell as a glass ball with a photosensitive mechanism inside, a mechanism that absorb sunlight, becoming a glowing yellow thing...
Yeah, I totally lost it, but it was a try, and maybe I come up with a different idea

[NyteFyre]

Hey, all I have to say is it's good to see people trying. We always welcome anyone willing to try.

I can sort of see where you're going with this, but maybe you could just go with the first half, and leave out the glowing thing? It's only an item sprite, so it's not going to be animated, so the glowing part can be left out. The first half sounds fine. Maybe you could re-try it?

[Eduardo]

I make it more simple:

[ImmunityBow]

Hmm... this way it kind of looks like a watch or a bracelet to me. Not that the solar cell couldn't be a watch or a bracelet, I guess. I'm going to have to take a closer look at it to see if there's something that can be done to make things a little more obvious.

[zeroality]

Since the X Sp Def sprite was lost, we can use that one.

Solar Cell could be good with improvement. If you got rid of the 'wristbands' on the 'watch' and made the whole thing bigger to fit the space then it would kind of look like a solar cell from Utopia: Creation of a Nation (Sim City-esque game).

Not sure how it'd look in the end but you could try that.

[Eduardo]

I got rid of the "wristbands" (actually, it was a pair of plugs, but doesn't matter), and now looks like a little sun on a glass ball

A little adjust on the colors (man, I can get no satisfaction... about my sprite)

[ImmunityBow]

The concept works and I like it, but I'm not quite sold yet on the execution, mainly because it looks so flat. I'm going to try fixing it myself, but feel free to beat me to the punch if anyone gets some inspiration.

[Eduardo]

How about now?

[ImmunityBow]

It still seems flat. There just needs to be far more shades flying around to simulate the shadows produced by a sphere, in addition to the light that exudes from the core. It's pretty complex to sprite, so it might take a long while to get.

[PokePoindexter]

Personally, I've always thought the Solar Cell should look more like solar cells used in the real world. The pictures on Wikipedia's site can be of some help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Cell

[ImmunityBow]

I did too until several people tried it and it just wasn't working for everyone, so I find Eduardo's concept interesting, being that it's a cell containing a sun, thus a Solar Cell.

[Noog]

I redid the Laser Lens sprite, this time with the Wide Lens as the base. I also deleted the laser line thing, as it was rather tough to add it considering the position of the sprite.

(Despite the file extension, it's saved as a .png image.)

[NyteFyre]

Hmm, It's a nice attempt, and the colors are nice, but we really dislike re-colors of previous items. However, i don't think having one big red lens really exemplifies what a laser lens is, in my opinion. Maybe it would look better as a clear lens with cross hairs, and/or computer code, since it's probably gathering data, and displaying it as you look through it. At least, that's what I feel the laser lens is like. Sort of like a Scouter.

X-Spec. Defense is allowed only because RSE didn't have the special split, but Topaz does, despite using Ruby as it's programming language. Plus, it's part of a set of preexisting items from RSE. Just thought I'd go ahead and put that out there for anyone curious about it.

[Noog]

How about this? I added a little panel to the side with what's supposed to be some sort of code. The crosshairs didn't work as well as I would've liked, but here it is:

[ImmunityBow]

You know what? I think that if you edit it a bit it might actually work out. Try removing the handle, reducing the thickness of the frame, moving down the body, then adding some antenna or headset elements to it, and you might just have a laser lens there. It'll be extensive but it might work.

[Casscass]

Hi i was wondering if you have a list of items that need to have a sprite? cause i may be interested in springing one up XD!

[ImmunityBow]

Here you go:


Laser Lens - Allows Normal and Fighting type attacks to hit Ghost Pokémon.
Magic Herb - If an attack can inflict a status condition, the chances of it doing so are tripled. One time use.
Sacred Veil - Extends duration of Light Screen, Reflect, and Water Wall to 8 turns.
Solar Cell - Negates charge for Solar Flare and Solarbeam at cost of 2 PP. Weather other than Sun cancels out effect.
Toxic Slime - Inflicts Toxic on opponent when holder is hit with a special attack. One time use.

[Noog]

Something like this?

[ImmunityBow]

Almost! I'd still like it if the thickness of the frame was reduced, and if it was a little more obvious how the Pokemon would hold the lens (I think creating some kind of a hook or something so it looks like an eyepiece would work well) then it'd very likely be good enough. Could you also post the image of the item this sprite is based off of?

Thanks Noog!

[Noog]

Sorry for taking a while; I was busy.

Anyway, I made the frame around the lens a little thinner, and added a hook/clamp to hold it in place on a Pokémon's head.

[ImmunityBow]

The thickness reduction works, though if possible could you increase the size of the lens itself to compensate for the decrease in size? That should make it easier to discern. I'm currently undecided about the hook/clamp, since I'm not quite sure if I can picture it attached to a Pokemon, but I really need a little time to figure out what would indeed be better.

[Noog]

I don't think increasing the size of the lens itself will work very well, as the frame is already 1 pixel wide.

[ImmunityBow]

I mean increasing the size of the lens by extending the lens and the frame, not at the expense of the frame.

[Cranky Guy]

Here's a Solar Cell I made from scratch.

http://crankyguy.deviantart.com/art/Solar-cell-264669595

BTW, how do I attach images? (I lack the knowledge)

[zeroality]

Hit Reply to Thread or 'Go Advanced' button on quick reply and the post page has a "Manage Attachments" button. You can use that to add attached files to a post.

If they are already hosted on another site, you can just use link to make it show as an image.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/295/6/f/solar_cell_by_crankyguy-d4dksd7.jpg

[Cranky Guy]

Thx, zero. So, how is the cell? Is it OK? Should I make it a lot more smaller? Oh, wait.......

http://crankyguy.deviantart.com/art/Smaller-Solar-cell-264700339

Just in case the attachment doesn't work, I have added a link. This is the smaller version of the Solar Cell.