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    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia, condensed by Reli
    In music, syncopation includes a variety of rhythms that deviate from regularly spaced strong and weak beats in a meter (pulse). These include a stress on a normally unstressed beat or a rest where one would normally be stressed.

    If you want a visual, the trebel is syncopated, bass is not. The quarter note comes on the second half of the beat, not on the beat like it does below.


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    I think I get it.

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    Syncopation is playing off-beat. So if you get out a metronome and put it to something like 3/3 time, if you play all your notes between the beats, or the strong beats are the weak notes should be, that's syncopation.

    It's kind of a large topic, but that's the gist.

    EDIT: Ninja'd. Page changes always do that to me.

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    Ninja'd? Anyways, that explains it a bit better for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannigon64 View Post
    Ninja'd?
    Reli beat him to the punch, and he did not realize it due to the fact that Reli's post was on a new page.

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    Ohhh. I get it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliability View Post
    Kalypso: Staccato, Syncopation
    Gallea: Venom, Elixir
    Portwind: Shining, Luminescent,
    Sedcini: Fantasy, Phantasm, Rugged
    Enechestra: Turquoise, Headland
    Aquapolis: Celestial, Eclipse, Ethernal, Penumbra, Deep Dark, Deep

    List of all the badge suggestions thus far, with my own added where I felt we needed more options:
    Staccato and Syncopation are both music terms that have a connection to the city name.
    Luminescent is simply to add another option.
    A Headland is a piece of rock that has resisted erosion by waves, which seems appropriate for a coastal rock gym. But I also very much like Turquoise.

    I'm sorry if I missed anything, and if you have any more suggestions, please let me know. Otherwise, if you could post your preferences, and I can get these up.
    As always, any results made here are contestable, and will only become official if nothing else comes up that has enough support to replace it.
    Quoted for emphasis. Please tell me what you want, or you'll have to make do with my choices. Which are, btw:

    Kalypso: Staccato
    Gallea: Elixir
    Portwind: Shining
    Sedcini: Fantasy
    Enechestra: Headland
    Aquapolis: Deep
    Last edited by Reliability; 03-08-11 at 05:11 AM. Reason: Adding Kalypso


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    I'm good with those.

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    Headland seems a little too obscure. We'll want badge names that really resonate with people and link strongly and quickly to their gyms. That's not going to happen with Headland, especially since most people won't take the time to check up what it is.

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    I don't even know what it means and I think it's better than Turquoise. Some suggestions of mine are Mountain, Crystal, Ore, Fossil, and Rubble. They aren't great, but it's just brainstorming, really. It might make someone else think of something better.

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    Kalypso: Staccato (I also present Bongo, Conga, and Maraca - common instruments in the Calypso style of music)
    Gallea: Venom
    Portwind: Shining
    Sedcini: Fantasy
    Enechestra: Headland (Agreed with IB on his points, though)
    Aquapolis: Deep

    I prefer the simpler names - it starts to sound forced if we use words that are obscure, methinks. :x
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    Kalypso: Staccato
    Gallea: Elixir
    Portwind: Shining
    Sedcini: Fantasy
    Enechestra: Opal? Topaz would have been my first choice, but for obvious reasons...
    Aquapolis: Celestial

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    Aquapolis: Rapture

    Dark allures of pure pleasure?

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    I think we're going for an aversion to darkness rather than an attractiveness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Temple Gaurdian 750 View Post
    Dark allures of pure pleasure?
    When I read this, I didn't think rapture, but I did think about other things. Things I wouldn't feel comfortable explaining in an open forum.


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    Yes, much like when I saw the librarian trainer? Anyway, was just thinking of a random excuse for a bioshock refrence.

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    I'll throw out a couple more names, just in case people aren't satisfied with the current options for any of them:

    Kalypso: Percussion Badge
    Sedcini: Crag Badge
    Enechestra: Coastline Badge, Cape Badge, Cove Badge (cape is better than cove, imo, since it's more of a land formation and a cove is more of a water formation, but eh)

    And that's totally not an attempt to get people to vote for my badge names. Nope, not in the slightest. Anyway, my votes, discounting the above suggestions, go to:

    Kalypso: Staccato
    Gallea: Elixir
    Portwind: Shining
    Sedcini: Fantasy
    Enechestra: Headland
    Aquapolis: Deep (Dark)
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    Thanks! I was lost for a little bit about the whole gym leader thing. Here's a suggestion for froy:

    Pyroon: Level 11
    Inflare: Level 11
    Grizlarre: Level 13

    The moves you can choose!

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    What about the:
    Scorch badge
    Wing badge
    Weed badge
    Xilir badge
    Shiny badge
    Mystical badge
    (All in order of gyms)

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    Could you please tell us which gyms each badge is for? First of all, you're six badges short. Second, what does Xilir mean? Third, what do the names Shiny and Mystical have to do with Poison and Light respectively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerft1 View Post
    Thanks! I was lost for a little bit about the whole gym leader thing. Here's a suggestion for froy:

    Pyroon: Level 11
    Inflare: Level 11
    Grizlarre: Level 13

    The moves you can choose!
    Froy was done a LONG time ago, actually. Only Christina and Osiro are left and they're almost done, I think.

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    Sorry. Spelling mistake. It is supposed to be elixir.
    They are all in order of gym appearance.

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    You already said that, I just wanted to make sure you didn't make a mistake ordering them. So you're suggestions are:

    Cranewing (Fire): Scorch
    Softwind (Flying): Wing
    Roothaven (Grass): Weed
    Kalypso (Normal): Elixir
    Gallea (Poison): Shiny
    Portwind (Light): Mystical

    And like I said, you missed six. Either way, those don't look right to me... Did you miss Kalypso?

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    Okay, now that I'm done being lazy, the first topic is edited with all the lineups and TMs (thanks to rp for those <3). I also included blanks for the things that are still missing.

    I'll leave another few days for this kind of voting. I think, to make things more official, I'll make a separate poll for actual voting. I'll use this to shorten the list of possible names though, and if something is overwhelmingly popular here, I'll leave it out of the other one. For example, Staccato and Shining are 4/4. So if that dosen't change, I won't bother putting those to poll.

    @tigerft1: I haven't counted your votes yet because you haven't clarified if those are suggestions or if they are your favourites as well. When you specify what belongs to what and your answer to that question, I'll count it.

    IF YOU HAVE NOT VOTED, PLEASE DO SO. IT HELPS ME KNOW THAT I'M NOT IGNORING PEOPLE'S OPINIONS.
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    EDIT: The next pressing thing to decide is what items Gerad and Christina will unlock. Does anyone have any ideas?


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    Kalypso: Syncopation
    Gallea: Venom
    Portwind:Luminescent,
    Sedcini: Fantasy
    Enechestra: Headland
    Aquapolis: Ethernal
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    I'll vote when the poll is up.
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    Not on the topic of badges, but I had an idea about gym leaders.

    Tristan's going to the big leagues, right? So his gym will get old old and cobwebby, and trainers won't get to go to the E4, because they can't get their 12th badge. Unless, of course, some nice fella goes on and takes his place in Portwind.

    So, Portwind gym goes out of buisness for a while, and you can't go in. Then, you beat the E4 and the champion. He's all sad, but then remembers about a job offer. He goes off, redesigns the gym, and challenges you again. You can keep battling him, and he gets stronger each time. (Maybe you could get a 13th badge, while you're at it). Or he could always set up a new gym back home at Neo Bay, too.

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    It's definitely a possibility to re-create the Portwind gym after the Champion. I don't think that it would do much good for him to get stronger, but having that one battle could be interesting.

    Are you referring to Simon or Bradley? I think Simon might be a better fit, as Bradley is likely going to go back to be the Professor's aide.


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    I was talking, apparently about Alisa. But Simon would work. He's on your team, right? Not the opposite team?

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    I don't want to do Alisa again, simply because you fight her as champion and the gym would be the next institutional battle. Also, Alisa seems more like the type who would go off into the wilderness and train to defeat you instead of settling for a gym title.


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    Simon is good, then.

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    I don't reallu know if I like him there either. It seems to me like he would be more inclined to wander far away, never to be seen again given the plot circumstances.

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    I suppose Bradley was supposed to have some light-type on his lineup, so maybe that would work better?


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    Or we could do a double gym leader (double battle) with some other familiar faces...

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    Now we're leaving the realm of usability. If we do this, it should be simple.


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    Ok, just throwing out some character options.

    Bradley could say that he's meeting pokmon for his pokedex by being a gym leader.

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    Unless you have already scripted otherwise, I also think Bradley is the best fit. His personality aligns with the Light-type, which is the exact hole Tristan leaves by joining the Elite 4. I don't really see him working all his life for Willow either.

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    Kirant gym badges are done, so the next thing to determine in what Gerad and Christina should unlock in place of HMs. But I was thinking: is it necessary at all? The Rivalry Orb shards are tied into Jane and Bella nicely and that will definitely be included, but it dosen't have to be in a gym affiliated way. Is it enough just to get the badge without it unlocking anything extra?



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    Yeah, not every gym has to unlock stuff. First gen did this because there were only 5 HMs. What HMs are we having in this game? There are 9 total in generations 1-3, so at least 3 gyms have to not unlock an HM. To name them:
    Cut
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    Surf
    Strength
    Flash
    Whirlpool
    Waterfall
    Dive
    Rock Smash

    Which ones are in Topaz?

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    Not Whirlpool, the other 8. They are already listed in the first post as to which badges unlock each.


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    Okay, so I don't see why Christina and Gerad should have to unlock something. So, what are the badges going to look like? Do we still need to decide, or have they been talked about before?

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