Thanx guys and yes eduardo that is the old one but as far as i know most of the info is still valid so thanx. As for the smaller map that is a huge relief. i can resize that but my issue is setting all the towns and routes in the exact center of a 16x16 pixel grid and then redrawing the pieces of the background that no longer fit... its just alot to do and ik im not artistic enough to do the redrawing. I should be able to get the routes and maps at least if someone else could resize the map, erase all the routes and lines, and then redraw the maps outlines and such i should be set. If someone does take on this task the dimensions are 480x320.