santa trainer sprite

[Quinn]

alright, I'll work with his face.
Also...have fun reading this
Possible “Hiker Clause” party team
Stanter
Intimidate
Lv ???
Hypnosis
Stomp
Confuse Ray
Powder Snow?

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Blizzard
Cold Wind
Hail
Confuse Ray

Stantler
Intimidate
Lv ???
Take Down
Hypnosis
Psychic
Powder Snow

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Cold Wind
Ice Beam
Icicle Whip
Double Team

From here on out, pick your 2 favs.

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv. ???
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Hail
Hypnosis

Wolfrost
Intimidate
Lv ???
Icicle Whip
Howl
Crush Claw
Avalanche

Polarice
Thick Fat
Lv. ???
Crush Claw
Slack Off
Roar
Avalanche/ Hyper Beam

Sirene
Light Absorb
Lv ???
Light Wave
Hydro Pump
Perish Song
Riptide/ Hyper Beam

Frostorm
Cold Snap
Lv. ???
Weather Ball
Tempest
Icy Wind
Cold Wind

[NyteFyre]

Wolfrost, and Frostorm

[Quinn]

I'm slow...I dont know....sad day.

this better?
I worked with his eye brows a bit, unusually they WERE actually curved down in the angry look.

[ImmunityBow]

One more thing that has been bothering me: The hat looks like it's falling of his head. Could that be fixed?

[Merlin]

my two faves r Wolfrost and Polarice cause i think they would be good to fight against and for the Santa trainer good to fight with...
considering where he lives he should be using Wolfrost and Polarice most times and probably have more Polarice but legends tend to keep things from being messed with too much...

[Quinn]

I'll work on it. That being said, though it is the weekend...I've got homework coming out of my ears. You would think that the last weeks of school are kicking back, but not for my classes...

[Quinn]

sorry for double postin, the edit time is done.
I just remembered something, his house.
(as some background), when I downloaded poccil's essentials, I looked through all the folders. The folder that I'll be talking about is the buildings one. When I saw it, all it was was just a billion houses and towers (towers cut into 2 or so). So if they are just images, we can edit them. I was wondering, how we could differ his house from the others. Possilbly candy canes? maybe a green mat? idk. That being said, I deleted it all when it wouldn't run (for having a too small monitor) Sow could someone (I would think either zero or I B would have this) could email, pm, or just post the general outer and inside house. The inside, I wanna make red and green and stuff (see carabrisk animations).

[ImmunityBow]

Go ahead. You might want to take a look at the repository if you have access though. There's Fangking's set of interior tilesets, which is even more extensive.

[Quinn]

(thank god) I couldn't find any

[Quinn]

I couldn't find them? I looked through all the maps, and miscellaneous, though couldn't find them. could someone email or pm me them?

[Quinn]

sorry for double posting. I'm making the house right now...and it is alot tougher than I thought. I think it will be good though. I'm having fun with it. I'm gonna possibly throw a load of Caribou and Reindeer though Possibly some flashing lights at night. I'm gonna have my fun. (IB, when we all agree on something, can you help me create it into some tiles?)

[Quinn]

that house is comming along pretty decent. I ripped the all 3 different house thingys. I took the normal house, and resized it (still trying to fix the distort), the big house factory one, and the chimney from the other. I'm wanting to make it big Also, I dont think this could happen, though I was imagining (B.S thinking) that it could be semi different. During the day, the lights are off and a sleigh on the roof, during the late dusk and early night, the lights are flashing the sleigh on top and a carabrisk by it, and during most of the night, a sleigh, the carabrisks running around are gone, and "hiker clause" is gone.
This was just me imagining though That would be fun though. I do think though that if I do put a sleigh and junk on the roof, during the night, it, all the carabrisks and stanters running around and him himself should be gone.

[HavocWraith]

You showed me the house and it llooked good. keep at it

[Quinn]

I might be able to do more of the house tonight! I dont know for sure though.

[Quinn]

so far.

[Quinn]

Latest Hiker Clause:
(I'm gonna post his house in a different post)

[NyteFyre]

I would probably help if you didn't keep double posting...I would ask Zero if i could get some Editing powers so i wouldn't have to double post like that if i were you. just saying is all.

[ImmunityBow]

Double posting is fine if you have something relevant to add and it's past the editing window. I really don't see why there's so much stigma behind it. Topaz doesn't have a big enough community to enforce all the rules bigger forums have (necroposting, double posting, etc.) If you don't want him to double post, then simply post something relevant of your own.

[Quinn]

k, here is what I've got of a house.
During the day:

and this one I LOVE, at night

Is there anyone good at making tiles? I need one of a fireplace for the inside

So here is what we got all together now. We have a sprite

We have an overworld

we have a stantler and a carabrisk overworld (which I will use ALOT)

we have an outside of the house (look above)
we have his team (generally, we need to decide that)
and we dont have NPC lines (how Ironic)
...and we have a tree. If its good I'll use it, cant tell anyone "how" it will be used though

[ImmunityBow]

I like what you've done with the roof there. Did you sprite that carriage yourself?

As for the rest of the house, the animations are fine, it's a nice idea to have it light up at night. The columns need shading though. Not just on the white.

The santa sprite looks a little sad, don't you think? Why don't you try closing his eyes and making him laugh?

As for the overworlds, they're great. The hat needs to have its shading reflect its shape more though, as does the bag. Try having it rounded instead of cutting across diagonally.

[Quinn]

yes I did. I'll work with the colums and the overworlds. (I'll do this before the odd couple though, since I'm more amped bout him)
"...like my tree...? " That could be taken in 2 ways,though. Pick your poison.

[NyteFyre]

-eye roll-

Those look awesome, Quinn, you may very well have a future in spriting!
The tree is fine, but what's it for? a Christmas tree at night?

[Quinn]

nope, but that just gave me another idea. THANX! (that idea is so much better than the other that I'm going to do as well...the one I can't talk bout yet) I dont have a future in spriting though... if you wanna know what I'm talkin bout, look at the "possible scorchion" thread.

[Quinn]

I'm just wondering, what should the size of the inside be? I was working with the tiles, and when it was 300 by 240 or so, I couldn't get too much in there, since all the tiles were big. I was thinking something like 500 or 600 by mid 400s. Or should I go bigger?

[ImmunityBow]

It doesn't really matter. In video-game physics a huge house can have a really small outside.

[Quinn]

yah, I just noticed,with the overworlds compared to the inside tiles, they are HUGE.

[NyteFyre]

It's true...i've seen it many a time.

[Quinn]

would you have any ideas on how to fix this issue?

[Quinn]

alright. According to IB, when overworld sprites are put into RPG, they double in size. Since these are only previews, I had to double their size temporary. So, here is a revamp of the outside.
(Didn't animate)

and 1st floor of his house.
(Not the easiest thing, but it is FUN!
(didn't make Clause run around like a crackhead.)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...side-House.gif

[ImmunityBow]

Looking good. (Actually, though, the overworlds need to be doubled in size before putting them on the map, the game doesn't do it for you).

There's one thing that's bothering me though, that's the fire. There's an orange pixel at the bottom that really looks out of place.

[Quinn]

I see whatcha mean. I also edited a bit, not only would there be downstairs, but there is an attic like thing (his room). I did put that snowy tree in there. That isn't what my surprise thing is though. I'll just say it since it isn't that cool anyway. In places like mossdeep and sootpolis, there are peoples houses that have trees that block doors and stuff, and that is what the tree would do. Block a couple areas in the basement.
Here are screenshots of what is so far.

[Quinn]

I'm making a downstairs right now, but I was wondering, would anyone by chance have the tile of a chair's back view? I've got the front and both sides, but I can't find a back. (Maybe I might just create one.) The downstairs isn't too cool though, but its gonna be populated with about 6-10 younger boys and girls.
Possible NPC lines for them all: General (some will say the exact same thing)
1. Hi
2. Sorry, I'm busy right now (Wii player)
3. Welcome. Are you hungry?
4. Welcome to *Saint Nick's* (Hiker Clause, or whatever we decide to finally call him. Not santa clause though. Seems to "odd". I think Saint Nick works) house. Enjoy your stay.
5. Hello
6. What do you want?
(as you can tell, they aren't much talkers)

[Quinn]

The downstairs is close enough to say "I'm mainly done". I just need the younger boy's and girl's overworlds.

[Quinn]

alright, I got alot done today. Here are alot of previews. (They are big, so I wont post them)
First the main floor
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../Main-Room.gif
go upstairs into the attic
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...er/Attic-1.png
Instead of going upstairs, go downstairs....
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...derer/BF-1.gif (this room (during day) and the next room (During night) are the populated rooms)
Where does the food come from on the tables you ask? What is behind the tree? Go to the room right by and see...
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...F1SideRoom.png (where the youngers sleep at night.)
the tree is still there though...oh well...sucks for you (It's a lead to a factory, though I'm NOT GONNA MAKE THAT!!!)
Go downstairs and see....
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...r/Basement.gif
DANCING DEER!!!! Lol. They aren't supposed to do that. They are supposed to be like the HG SS ones. Isnt that kinda funny though. (also, I'm not COMPLETLY done with this room yet, I'm gonna add a water thingy, and possibly hay. But here is the bug chunck of the cake

[X-Antibody]

First of all, the trainer sprite. The white parts have a different shading which doesn't blend in at all with the rest of it, and it should have some darker outline. The eyes should be 2px darker colour and 2px white like normal trainer sprites.

I think we're still in GBA style (forget if it's RSE or FRLG) for overworlds? Meh, prove me wrong. Beard needs outline on the front sprites, the sack should be more rounded (or blockier if achievable since it's filled with boxes of presents) Eyes actually look fine in the ow.

Not so white! Give it a more solid outline.

I like it, but generally stay away from such dark outlines on the roof. Use the lighter colour you used to outline the building.
For both the night and the day ones, the columns need work. Don't zoom in before applying the white, since it looks bad. Do the white swirls before magnifying the image to show us.

Looks decent but the DP overworld doesn't fit in with the RSE tiles. Same zooming in problem with the patterns on the mat.

Plain, simple, nice. But why is there snow on the indoor trees and there's the zooming in thing with the cutoff in the checkered mat part.

Same thing with the tree. Oh, and we don't want to be sued for giving someone's child an eplieptic seizure because of the flashing tree and tvs.

Tree snow why blablabla. Is that a coffee maker? 8D

Stairs' outline is too dark for the actual colour of the steps, the Caribrisk ow still looks odd to me.

[Quinn]

I'll work with most of it. To answer some questions and state some stuff.
1. The DP overworld might not look right now, but IB says it works (awhile back ago, I think?)
2. You haven't seen those freaky trees that have that white shit sprayed on them? Its actually kinda cool. Thats what those are.
3. For one, the TV wont be flashing as fast, it will be like the ones in RSE. Also, 2nd, if slowed down, I dont think it would give kids epilepsy. Why do I say that though (sounds like a bold statement), but I'm actually slightly epileptic myself. I can't watch those super flashy thingys at parties.
4. It could be. It could also be Hot chocolate, but choose whatever suits you. (me, it would be a mocha machine ....mmmmmm....
5. I dont know if its just me, just you or what, but I actually can't see the issues with the overworlds of Carabrisk and "SC". Idk though. ;P
I'll get to most of the other stuff in a bit, I've got some "editing" to do with something else first.
6. I was actually going for that kinda "odd" look on the entrance mat.

[Quinn]

I did most of the changes X-antibody and some other people said.
I'm starting to try to finalize this, so here is what we have.
Name: Pokemon Trainer Saint Nick? Care Giver Saint Nick? Kind Man Saint Nick? (Not Santa Clause)
Sprite: (IB, you said you wanted him laughing and winking right? Used Watson as a "look at")

Team:
Stanter
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Hypnosis
Stomp
Confuse Ray
Powder Snow?

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Blizzard
Cold Wind
Hail
Confuse Ray

Stantler
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Take Down
Hypnosis
Psychic
Powder Snow

Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Cold Wind
Ice Beam
Icicle Whip
Double Team
From here on out, pick your 2 favs. (I think I might make a poll for this)
Carabrisk
Intimidate
Lv. ???
Gender ???
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Hail
Hypnosis
Wolfrost
Intimidate
Lv ???
Gender ???
Icicle Whip
Howl
Crush Claw
Avalanche
Polarice
Thick Fat
Lv. ???
Gender ???
Crush Claw
Slack Off
Roar
Avalanche/ Hyper Beam
Sirene
Light Absorb
Lv ???
Gender ???
Light Wave
Hydro Pump
Perish Song
Riptide/ Hyper Beam
Frostorm
Cold Snap
Lv. ???
Gender ???
Weather Ball
Tempest
Icy Wind
Cold Wind

Overworlds



NPC lines
Intro:
Win:
Loss:
House
Outside:
Day:
Night:
(If you look at the roof, the day doesn't have the "flat land" as the night does under the footprints. It has "snowed over" during the day, and is "flatted" at night.)
Inside
Main Room
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ay-5-30-10.gif
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ght-5-30-1.gif
(Ya'll know that during the day he chases his Carabrisk around the table like "peeko and Mr. Brinney"...I just didn't wanna "fully" animated that).
Attic
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ic-5-30-10.png (Doesn't change day and night. I still like the "fake snow" tree better though)
Instead of going upstairs, go downstairs to the "kick back room"
BF 1
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ay-5-30-10.gif (Populated with youngster boys and girls)
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ight-5-30-.png
(I dont know how the night system works, but how it changes outside, it would actually also do the same thing in this room and the side room. I know it turns a bit darker, but I couldn't capture "exactly" how the night stuff works. You get what I’m saying though, right?)
BF 1 Side room
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ide-Day-5-.png
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ide-Night-.png (Populated with sleeping youngster boys and girls. This is why I REALLY need the overworlds, so I can create the sleeping ones. Also, “DITTO” of what I said above with the night stuff)
Go down the final stairs and...
Basement
Day: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...m-Day-5-30.gif
Night: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...m-Night-5-.png
(If ya'll think this is better than them walking in place then great! I was thinking in that far corner area, have a "unseen" item, idk what though. How do you get to that item? You ease over there. It would actually be really easy if you think about it If you dont like that idea though, they could just walk in place and be no item. Either way though, the night is still the same)

[ImmunityBow]

I think the face is a vast improvement. The overworlds, though, you haven't really implemented any of the improvements I suggested. You might want to look back in the topic and my previous PMs to find them. (Mainly about the shading needing to be more curved and natural)

[Quinn]

I thought I nailed that, but alright. Is there anything else? (*hopes not too much, wants to finish this)

alright I'll get to that, though I actually thought my edit nailed that.

[zeroality]

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