Therma is done!
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I believe this topic has been thrown off for quite some time now, so i decided to create this thread and decided to get this thing off our chests. I got Froy here so thats one down
The unfinished are Rocket Admin (last one), Gym Leaderb Therma, Gym Leader Hanzo, Gym Leader Ferando, Gym Leader Mandy, Gym Leader Gerad, Gym Leader Christina, Gym Leader Osiro, Elite Four (1-4), and last but not least, The Champion! Ideas?
Therma is done!
I guess that's a bit better than your Froy, because waitresses are less common in Diamond and Pearl, therefore not as well remembered. I've got what I think is a better Froy. It might just be my opinion though... I think I kind of screwed up his arm. I'll fix that and repost. Also, are you able to guess what sprite(s) I used to make it? IMO, the harder it is to tell which sprites are used, the better the sprite (at least with trainer sprites, anyways). That's the only thing I dislike about your sprites; I immediately guessed Volkner and waitress as the main sprite used. If you can use an obscure enough sprite, change it in a drastic way, or combine it with others, it will probably be better for Pokemon Topaz.
Edit: Fixed his arm
Last edited by Tyrannigon64; 01-22-11 at 02:19 AM.
Sorry, Mefan, but we already have a Froy and Therma sprite. I believe they are not shown so that they are not stolen and such, however.
So which sprites haven't been done? And is there any way of viewing the existing ones?
i guess on the site page but i took a shot at the champion possibly one of the most changed trainer sprites ever!
oh and btw, i'm not good at scratching unless ive used over sprites so...
Thanks for telling me... it seems like all the sprites i can get a good vision of are taken XD Anyway i tried again at froy
I must say, your champion is much better. But there are some problems. The head is very awkward, both in its expression and size. It doesn't look natural. The outlining/shading in the purple areas looks kind of weird too. The most important problem, is that it doesn't give the feel of a champion. Champions usually have an impressive sprite that either says "I mean serious business" or looks graceful (Or in Cynthia's case, both). Although, with a bit of editing, and a different head, there is some chance your sprite could be used for something, maybe an E4, or gym leader, or a normal trainer.
Also, why did you bother to try again at Froy? PikangX just said that there's already a Froy sprite.
well i thought it could be used as another trainer? idk lolz
you should do scratch sprites instead because that gives game freak less of a reason to shut this down (not saying they will)
I'm backish, i think at least
You guys are making are changing the champion? Well, my champion sprite will volunteer! Won't you? Sorry, he's being a 'little' incooperative...
No, IIRC, we are using Vincent if your character is female, and another girl character if you play as a male. I may be wrong, though.
It isn't official yet. Unless its made official, it will be Vincent.
This is also a possibility, but also not for sure.
Also, I would like to avoid having any trainer mixes in the game at all. No matter how good a mix is, it won't replace a sprite done from scratch.
mefan's list is also incorrect. Hanzo and Mandy are no longer in the game (at least not in an established role) and there are six new gym leaders that need sprites. And the E4 also have not been done. As well, I want to eliminate the mixes for the main characters at least, so Vincent, Simon and Bradley will all need new sprites. Obviously, all of this is wishful thinking until someone decides to try some out.
Who are the gym leaders, what types do they specialize in, and where are their gyms located? I would search, but I don't know if whatever list I find is outdated.
It's not a gym leader or anything, but I've got an idea for a trainer:
Pyrokinetic! Without the flame, if anyone wants to edit it:
I'm leaving out Froy and Therma, since their sprites are already done.
Fernando -Roothaven (Grass)
Bella -Gallea (Poison)
Tristan -Portwind (Light)
Wolfe -Sedcini (Dragon)
Crys -Enechestra (Rock)
Gerad -Dynamo Gardens (Electric)
Christina -Skobeloff (sp?) (Ice)
Osiro -Saharan (Ground)
Layla -Aquapolis (Dark)
And for E4:
Torry/Torrence (Water) [NOTE: it was decided the spriter decides the gender of this member, so do whichever you feel most comfortable with]
Grayson/Greyson (Steel)
A Ghost E4 member that has yet to be named. [So again, if a good sprite comes up, that will help to determine the gender.]
As long as we can't tell. It just means that your sprite will have to of a similar style and proportion, and try not to use hands that are unique that people might recognize. But there are ways to hide hands and remove them from the sprite, as long as its not done awkwardly.
The head looks really DPP ace trainer-y. Also, it looks like the side of the body on our right is longer than the one on our left. The hair is also just a really awkward shape, especially with the black outline in a right angle on the left side.
Start with that, and I can take a closer look once that's done.
Is this okay?
The leg on the right still needs work. It's still too long (it should be the same length as the other, if not shorter), and it shouldn't curve like that. If the knee is bent, it needs to be more defined, and the leg should be much shorter. It may be easier just to straighten it.
The hair looks a little too much like a helmet. It's also a bit too "yellow," making it look more fake. Something slightly more natural would work and still keep the fire idea.
It won't let me upload the version without the flame.
I like the shape of the hair a lot. And the leg is a good length now.
The shoulder on the right is a little rough and could use some smoothing out, and that entire arm should be moved a little to the right, because it dosen't look attached right now. Also, if you could shift the legs to the legs just a pixel, that would help immensely with the hip that seems to pop out. The hair is a little monotone as well, you can have up to three shades.
Are there any more problems?
Edit button expired. After looking it up, I thought that "Tori" might be a good name, because "Torry" didn't come up when I Google searched it, "Tory" is a boy's name, and so is "Torrence" (at least that's what I found from Google searching)
Awkward breasts are awkward. O.o
I hope you don't mind, but rather than try and describe how to fix them, I went in to do it myself. I tried to fix anything else that I thought needed fixing, but this was SOOOOOO much better as a start than the fire guy. If you keep creating stuff like this, that would be SO AWESOME!
I'm sure we can change the spelling of the name. I don't think it would be a big leap from Torry to Torri, they both get the idea across.
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One thing that still bothers me about the pyrotechnic is the hand that's held up. I've been trying to think of a solution, but I can't.
I would also make the same upper arm thicker, so add a line of pixels to the bottom of it. It might look horrible though, so try it out and see if it's worth it.
I'm glad you liked it! Yeah, and thanks for fixing the breasts, I knew those were awkward and didn't know how to fix them. All in all, I like your version better. Yeah, just go ahead and edit anything I make if you think you can improve it. And I'll work on that hand for the pyrokinetic.
Edit: Here's the new pyrokinetic. If you want to, you can edit it.
Last edited by Tyrannigon64; 01-26-11 at 03:01 PM.
I tried Crys, but it's not as good as Tori or anything
One thing that bothers me about Torri, though she's a fine sprite, is how neutral her pose is. We've got lots of neutrally or near enough posed sprites already.
If anyone wants to pick up some tips for spriting trainers, I found a decent tutorial on Youtube.
I can't really tell which way the pyrotechnic guy's facing. Is he facing away looking back at us with a broken arm? Has he broke his wrist and neck? Or is he a zombie?
Basically, it's too disjointed. The head, right hand (his), left leg and to a degree his forward arm are all in opposing directions.
I just realized, I think Reliability forgot a gym. Which one did you forget? Or are there only eleven gyms now?
Oh and just to clear up confusion, it's a pyrokinetic, not a pyrotechnic. I believe pyrotechnics are special effects used to put fire in live band performances. Pyrokinetics are people who can create fire with their minds. Look up "pyrokinesis" on Wikipedia.
K like torri and th pyro dude btw im grounded atm
Reviving to post:
and the original for comparison:
I found the purple book was a little too much and blocked the upper arm connection. It moved the arms up to look a little more realistic (IMO) made both the legs and arms slightly shorter, changed the foot on the right and did some shading changes. I'm not really sure if any of these are improvements though.
I like the new one better, but something seems weird about his left side, but I can't really figure out what it is...
I like it either way.
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It is a definite improvement, especially the leg.
Trainer sprites always seem to be the hardest thing to get right but this one looks good.