Suggestions

[ImmunityBow]

Then what would be a suitable prize for beating Chuck?

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Magikarp :P

Depending on how late Chuck is, perhaps Bakurge?

[Will]

Purior?

[ImmunityBow]

Bakurge is found in the Abandoned Factory. Purior isn't Fighting type.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

A magikarp with Hyper Beam :P

Smeargle? It has to appear somewhere. Perhaps Chuck is quite the (movie) artist?

[Cranky Guy]

The other pokemon you couldn't get. Let's just say you join the orion defenders and recieve Blitzfaust. Then after you finish the game and beat Chuck, you receive Vilephist! That way you can still fill your whole pokedex. Did you understand that?

[NyteFyre]

I understood perfectly, and I think it's a suitable prize! :3

But what about for Jasmine? What could you get from her?

[ImmunityBow]

Okay, cranky guy's idea works out nicely. Jasmine I think you got a certain item from her, but I don't remember.

[NyteFyre]

Metal coat, probably?

[Triumph]

If I remember correctly, the Metal Coat was gotten through the captain of the ship in HG/SS.

[Reliability]

Do any of out Pokemon evolve with Metal Coat though? And it seems a little anti-climactic to get a Pokemon from Chuck and then just that item from Jasmine. I feel like it should be something more significant?

[NyteFyre]

Hmm, you're right.....Maybe Chuck's gym could be harder, or a quest has be done first, as a way to make up for that anti-climaticism? Or perhaps you have to go to Olivine first, kind of like a reversal of what you have to do in HG/SS?

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Swamp Dragon Pokemon. She should give you one.

[NyteFyre]

Well, but that doesn't make much sense, though. Blitzfaust/Vilephist makes sense for chuck since he's a fighting type Gym Leader. Drakodo, or whatever pokemon you're talking about just doesn't fit with Jasmine.

Purior could maybe fit her, since it's a Steel/Light type, though I think Purior is going somewhere else...but other than Skalloy, who's a baby pokemon, and Mirust, who's already got a side-quest, there are no other steel basic pokemon..

[ImmunityBow]

Drakodo can be found outside of Colossus City. Purior I thought was going to be a sidequest. Jasmine could be part of that, instead of simply just giving something for defeating her.

[Reliability]

I haven't really thought about writing side plots yet, so this is a solid idea as a jumping off point.

[Cranky Guy]

I was thinking that Jasmine would give you an item that allows you to catch Purior. Here's how it works.

You beat Jasmine. Jasmine tells you about Purior. You receive an item from Jasmine that helps you find Purior. The item will than (pick one of the choices below).

1. Allow you to find Purior as a wandering Pokemon.
2. Give you access to a new area that will have Purior waiting at the end. (like the Old Sea Map and Eon Ticket)

Having Jasmine just give you Purior is OK too, though.

[Reliability]

I'd probably go with something along the line of the second one.

Perhaps Purior is the cause of the reason that the route into Johto has become impassible? That would be reason enough for Jasmine to know about the Pokemon, and wants it captured before it can do more damage.

[Triumph]

I'd probably go with something along the line of the second one.

Perhaps Purior is the cause of the reason that the route into Johto has become impassible? That would be reason enough for Jasmine to know about the Pokemon, and wants it captured before it can do more damage.

This seems like both great human logic and game logic. I second the motion.

[NyteFyre]

That could make sense. A semi-large steel type pokemon with powerful moves seems like it'd be capable of causing enough damage to ostracize Olivine from Jhoto.

[Reliability]

The original idea was to have it be a rock-slide caused by an earthquake. It's almost more plausible to have the slide caused by a Pokemon.

[NyteFyre]

-nodnod-but wait, the closest amount of mountain is Mt. Mortar, which is on the other side of Ekrutek. Where would the rock-slide come from?

[Cranky Guy]

Some Pokemon can use Rock slide, although it isn't quite genius, cause a rock slide from a single Pokemon seems like too little to split a city from a continent.

[ImmunityBow]

Perhaps it has something to do with the Alpha/Beta/Gamma/Delta moves that only Purior has access to?

[Cranky Guy]

Wait a second, isn't Purior good? I mean, he's supposed to be doing good deeds, not ostracizing cities from continents, right?

[ImmunityBow]

Yes, but it's very easy to justify why a certain portion of humanity should be separated from the other. Containing Team Rocket, for instance.

[Reliability]

ImmunityBow: Consistently winning Topaz since 2007.

[Triumph]

Yes, but it's very easy to justify why a certain portion of humanity should be separated from the other. Containing Team Rocket, for instance.

Win.

[NyteFyre]

This could also explain why the rockets are unable to receive a lot of back-up, and resulting in you seeing specific grunts repeatedly. Could also explain the absence of Giovanni, aside from the fact that he's retired, I think.

[Cranky Guy]

Now that's done, I'm fine with the idea.

[ImmunityBow]

Giovanni isn't absent. He's present in a large portion of the Rocket/Orion plot.

[ImmunityBow]

Ugh, I just found out that Abaddon means "place of the condemned," which is not how it's been planned as this entire time. Do you think anyone will care?

[BladeVap]

I dunno. You're referring to the swamp area, right?

[ImmunityBow]

Yes.

[Reliability]

I don't think it matters. Worse things have happened in canon than an obscurely named swamp.

[ImmunityBow]

Okay. Neon and Piro didn't seem to know either so the naming process must have been from the time of the dinosaurs.

[Reliability]

I'm sure there are a lot things we're using of that nature. Stalin probably named half of our Pokemon.

[MeekRhino]

Suggestion: Would it be possible to put a compilation on the site of all non-canon moves and items (with effects)? I don't know about others, but I find it extremely difficult to contribute in certain sections (e.g. revamps) because I am not in the least familiar with these things. I'm sure that visitors to the site would also find the information enlightening and useful. Just a suggestion, don't want to put any extra burden on anyone.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

you mean like the ones located in exactly the same place as the revamps (minus the item descriptions)?

[MeekRhino]

...possibly. I'll take a closer look. But still, for the casual visitor the site would be a more helpful location.