Revamp: Koffing -> Weezing

[Cyndadile]

I don't know what else we can add. Shadow Ball (Misticade)?

[NyteFyre]

Hmm....Does Koffing get Nasty Plot? Or is that Gen 4? If not, that could maybe be a viable option. I don't know if any fathers could pass it to the line though...

[Cyndadile]

Nasty plot does make sense, but it is gen 4.

[NyteFyre]

It's a really good move, though, I don't see why we couldn't add it, but oh well. Are there any moves similar to it, that are Gen 3 or older?

[ImmunityBow]

There's Mystic Power but that doesn't fit very well I don't think.

[NyteFyre]

Well, the noxious clouds inside Koffing, and the second half of Wheezing are mysteries, but yeah, I don't think it fits...How about Mean Look?

[ImmunityBow]

Defensive Weezing with Toxic and Mean Look could be cool. Do you have a father?

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

I AM your father!

And Duskull says hi too.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Options: Grimer, Koffing, Duskull, Jackalant, Misticade, Mirust, Phantasomo, Atlaxa, Cirroft, Staryu (is Water 3 in RSE and FRLG, but listed as indeterminate here)

I'm surprised Jackalant isn't under Plant. EDIT: Oh, it's under both.

Also: Acid Armor - Grimer/Muk

EDIT 2: I just realised our pokedex entries don't list type.

[Cyndadile]

Level Moves Koffing/Weezing
01|01 Poison Gas
01|01 Tackle
09|09 Smog
13|13 Smokescreen
19|19 Selfdestruct
25|25 Sludge
29|29 Afterburn
33|33 Haze
39|40 Sludge Bomb
45|47 Explosion
49|52 Destiny Bond
53|57 Burnout
59|64 Memento

Egg Moves
Psywave - Phantasomo
Destiny Bond - Koffing, Misticade, Mirust, Phantasomo
Pain Split - Atlaxa
Will-o-wisp - Duskull, Jackalant
Mean Look - Misdreavus, Duskull
Scary Face - Phantern, Atlaxa

TM List (*Weezing only):
06 Toxic
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
12 Taunt
15 Hyper Beam*
17 Protect
18 Rain Dance
21 Frustration
24 Thunderbolt
25 Thunder
27 Return
30 Shadow Ball
32 Double Team
34 Shock Wave
35 Flamethrower
36 Sludge Bomb
38 Fire Blast
41 Torment
42 Facade
43 Secret Power
44 Rest
45 Attract
46 Thief
62 Cherry Bomb

Does that look good? We discussed Fireball at one point, are we dropping that? Any TMs to add? Did we confirm or deny Cherry Bomb? If nothing needs changing, we're ready for a write-up.
Speak now or forever hold your peace.

[ImmunityBow]

TM list should include:
53 Focus Sight
55 Endure
61 Umbrage
62 Cherry Bomb
72 Initiative
75 Sleep Talk
78 Substitute
79 Rocket Punch
80 Orion’s Sword

Umbrage is debatable so that can be a point of discussion. I think it fits though. Cherry Bomb is a yes for me, Fireball is not necessary IMO. Otherwise standard utility TMs that go on everyone.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

I suggested fireball as a tutor move, not sure how everyone reacted to that. Actually, where should tutor moves be discussed?

[ImmunityBow]

I guess tutors were one of the things that didn't carry over from the old forums. I'm pretty sure the only ones we had agreed on anyway were the elemental punches and Smellingsalts.

[Cyndadile]

Level Moves Koffing/Weezing
01|01 Poison Gas
01|01 Tackle
09|09 Smog
13|13 Smokescreen
19|19 Selfdestruct
25|25 Sludge
29|29 Afterburn
33|33 Haze
39|40 Sludge Bomb
45|47 Explosion
49|52 Destiny Bond
53|57 Burnout
59|64 Memento

Egg Moves
Psywave - Phantasomo
Destiny Bond - Koffing, Misticade, Mirust, Phantasomo
Pain Split - Atlaxa
Will-o-wisp - Duskull, Jackalant
Mean Look - Misdreavus, Duskull
Scary Face - Phantern, Atlaxa

TM List (*Weezing only):
06 Toxic
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
12 Taunt
15 Hyper Beam*
17 Protect
18 Rain Dance
21 Frustration
24 Thunderbolt
25 Thunder
27 Return
30 Shadow Ball
32 Double Team
34 Shock Wave
35 Flamethrower
36 Sludge Bomb
38 Fire Blast
41 Torment
42 Facade
43 Secret Power
44 Rest
45 Attract
46 Thief
53 Focus Sight
55 Endure
61 Umbrage
62 Cherry Bomb
72 Initiative
75 Sleep Talk
78 Substitute
79 Rocket Punch
80 Orion’s Sword

Anyone in the mood for a write-up?
We'll discuss tutor moves sometime after the demo, when we know where the tutors will be.

[ImmunityBow]

Can we get it into dex entry format?

[Cyndadile]

#079/#109
Koffing
Poison Gas Pokemon
Evolution: Evolves into Weezing at level 35
Height: 2' 00"
Weight: 2.0 lbs
Ability: Levitate
Egg Group: Indeterminate

Dex Entry: KOFFING absorbs toxic gasses from the air to keep itself inflated. Since it releases these gasses in the same form, KOFFING's effect on the environment is heavily debated.

Base Stats:
HP: 40
Atk: 65
Def: 95
SAtk: 60
SDef: 45
Spd: 35
BST: 340

01 Poison Gas
01 Tackle
09 Smog
13 Smokescreen
19 Selfdestruct
25 Sludge
29 Afterburn
33 Haze
39 Sludge Bomb
45 Explosion
49 Destiny Bond
53 Burnout
59 Memento

TMs:

06 Toxic
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
12 Taunt
17 Protect
18 Rain Dance
21 Frustration
24 Thunderbolt
25 Thunder
27 Return
30 Shadow Ball
32 Double Team
34 Shock Wave
35 Flamethrower
36 Sludge Bomb
38 Fire Blast
41 Torment
42 Facade
43 Secret Power
44 Rest
45 Attract
46 Thief
53 Focus Sight
55 Endure
61 Umbrage
62 Cherry Bomb
72 Initiative
75 Sleep Talk
78 Substitute
79 Rocket Punch
80 Orion’s Sword

Front and back sprites by Gamefreak

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#080/#110
Weezing
Poison Gas Pokemon
Height: 3' 11"
Weight: 21.0 lbs
Ability: Levitate
Egg Group: Indeterminate

Dex Entry: WEEZING is a fusion of the waste material from two KOFFING. Wounds caused from being struck by its sludge will quickly fester and become infected, requiring urgent medical attention.

Base Stats:
HP: 65
Atk: 90
Def: 120
SAtk: 85
SDef: 70
Spd: 60
BST: 490

01 Poison Gas
01 Tackle
09 Smog
13 Smokescreen
19 Selfdestruct
25 Sludge
29 Afterburn
33 Haze
40 Sludge Bomb
47 Explosion
52 Destiny Bond
57 Burnout
64 Memento

TMs:

06 Toxic
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
12 Taunt
15 Hyper Beam
17 Protect
18 Rain Dance
21 Frustration
24 Thunderbolt
25 Thunder
27 Return
30 Shadow Ball
32 Double Team
34 Shock Wave
35 Flamethrower
36 Sludge Bomb
38 Fire Blast
41 Torment
42 Facade
43 Secret Power
44 Rest
45 Attract
46 Thief
53 Focus Sight
55 Endure
61 Umbrage
62 Cherry Bomb
72 Initiative
75 Sleep Talk
78 Substitute
79 Rocket Punch
80 Orion’s Sword

Front and back sprites by Gamefreak

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Egg Moves:

Psywave
Destiny Bond
Pain Split
Will-o-wisp
Mean Look
Scary Face

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Pokemon.txt also neccessary.

EDIT: Just remembered that I can make the posts myself now. Nifty. Pokemon.txt is still neccessary.