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Hey, I'm updating the site. Working on the city/town pages and I noticed that the HM03 is given out for winning at a contest hall?
Yeah... could we go ahead and not do that?
I hated freaking contests in RSE and to be forced to participate in one to win one of the HMs is just...
(this thread was created from the posts in the Suggestions thread after the discussion evolved)
Last edited by zeroality; 02-26-11 at 07:30 PM.
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Thank god. I hate contests
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lol...
yes i'm very certain that it was dropped as the contests, battle frontier and a few other things had all been dropped so that programming the game would be easier...
other than that i was completely unaware that it was still being considered as part of a contest...
besides you never really won anything and just imagine being a noob and getting stuck trying to win a contest just so you can make it past a certain gym so you could beat the game...
never have things that important as items to win in contests or anything similar, getting a master ball from the contest wouldn't be bad but not things like an HM or something else equally as important...
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Yeah it's just a bad idea. I think that is why it was dropped!
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What's with all the Contest hate? I rather like them...
I've got nothing against them, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
I wasn't suggesting we remove contests altogether. I don't mind leaving in that feature for players who enjoy it.
But to force players who don't to play them just to get one of the HMs is a terrible, terrible idea.
Moreover, it's the Hyper Contest Hall that gives out the HM03. Which means you have to win at the Normal and Super Contest Halls first. We'd have people ragequitting halfway through playing Topaz, most likely.
Thanks Reliability. Should I update the page to reflect it? I think it was Gallea City, or Enchestra. Should I just remove the sentence about HM03 being given out as prize?
Killl it! Lol. I actually don't mind the contests, and I know lots of people love them (the ones in RSE; not DP--those sucked). It's requiring players to do them that's a bad idea. In other words, exactly what zero just said XD
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I do like contests, but the reservations I have have basically all been said already.
I agree with everyone - even if Contests were in Topaz, you should not be FORCED to do them. Though I personally really wish we had them...
yeah i can imagine how contests would be quite hard to program, you would need to come up with a nice algorithm for computing the winner and you would need to change the abilities to add a certain amount of points for each contest type, it would just be a mess. maybe in a patch though
well i like the contests from RSE not PDP but *if* it is in the game then we would need to figure out how the things are going to work and where each one is going to be...
i understand that programming the contests is hard but i am curious the battle frontier stuff might also be equally as hard but why not add the trainer tower?
if i'm right i know how that thing works, (if not then i'm an idiot for assuming such a thing)...
maybe we should have a poll concerning these things?
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I think the most important thing is to get out a functional demo ASAP so we can test balance. Then we can worry about the other things.
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Also if we were to have contests, we would need to figure out what the new Topaz moves do in the contests.
yeah that's true...
for that i think we should just start off with suggestions and then do the polls but again only if we do the contests...
so how exactly do we get the hms anyway?
i dont remember if y'all talked about it or not...
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Hopefully before Gallea, because the gym I designed for Gallea revolves around the three HM's that you are able to use at the time (i.e. Cut, Flash, and Surf)
We should have a really difficult sidequest for fly.
You don't neeeeeeeed fly...
I'm just saying, its a luxury that you should have to really earn.
What he's saying is that you could always travel by foot, but that's tedious. You technically can beat any Pokemon game without using Fly.
I don't know that making Fly obtained in a side-quest is a good idea. Too much variation from the canon standard will cause the player to lose interest, regardless of how good th game is.
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It's not straying that far from the canon games.
I just don't think it's a good idea. I think i will just tick off players.
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^ Complete BS imo. "ZOMG IT'S NOT JUST 'GO THROU GYMZ, BEAT E4 DO NOTHIN!' I MUST NOT BE INTERESTED!" Is exactly what wouldn't happen.
Well if it isn't extremely hard, I don't think it would tick anyone off.
Just, in my experience, if a fangame has a lot of weird differences from canon games I get annoyed.
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yeah i have to agree with that if it's too far it gets a bit annoying...
mostly my question was when we get each of the hms in this game how do we get them and in which order...
(if you don't want to give out how you get them you could post their order)
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Mostly the order will follow the order that the badges allow their use, which you can check in the Gym Leader Discussion topic. I don't know exactly when or where, but logically before you need to use them. For example, you'll get Flash in Mistvale, as you will need it to get through Mt. Mist.
But as I said, it likely won't be anything too complicated, unless people seem to really want it. I am considering the idea of having a Fly side-quest, but not anything that is a drawn-out process. But the need for a final decision on that a long ways away from now, so we have plenty of time to argue back and forth if necessary.
Personally, I want large differences from the Canon. I would like the game to show all the other great things within the pokemon universe besides the canon games. Tis why I like some of the spin-offs better than canon. Secondary character classes, anyone? It would be cool to be a ranger in game, or a professional Breeder, or something. It's kind of boring simply being a trainer the whole time.